Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 22
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 22, 2021.
Draft:Iracq
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- The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete. G5'd - Created by a sock 192.76.8.74 (talk) 21:01, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Advised to take this here instead of WP:MfD. In my opinion, this misspelling of 'Iraq' is not common enough to be a worthwhile redirect. People searching this may actually be expecting articles relating to 'IRACQ [Increased Range ACQuisition]'. I propose outright deletion. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 07:08, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Procedural close and direct the person to ask for that at WP:AFC/R and let this die 6 months or CSD G6 housekeeping after redirect is answered. Someone can create IRACQ (all-caps) and redirect it to RCA AN/FPS-16 Instrumentation Radar where the term is extensively used. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:05, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- A significant majority of Google results for Iracq are misspellings of "Iraq", including in papers and government documents. Creating a redirect in draftspace is the wrong process, but now that it's done, let's just give the creator what they want rather than sending this to more bureaucracy. Suppressredirect move to Iracq. I agree that it's okay for this and a hypothetical IRACQ to point to different places. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 03:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Are Iracq and/or IRACQ suitable redirects?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 22:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes to IRACQ but no to Iracq. This is such a rare misspelling I don't think it would be useful. The vast majority of results apparently showing this misspelling are actually Google scannos. Redirects from misspellings can actually do more harm than good (misleading the reader into thinking the spelling they used was correct) and should only be used when they are common and a strong chance they will be used. IRACQ is a different question, it is a real thing and we already have a target. It also has other uses and may eventually become a disambiguation page. This has it as an acronym in artificial intelligence and the company involved already has an article here. SpinningSpark 13:01, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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Raja Ror I
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- The result of the discussion was delete. The content has been removed again. Just don't put the cart before the horse, and make sure there's coverage of these topics before thinking about restoring the redirects. --BDD (talk) 21:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
No longer mentioned in the article. First, Raja Khangar was redirected to Raja Ror I by Onel5969 (talk · contribs) in June 2018 as a WP:COATRACK article whose ostensible subject failed WP:GNG. Then Мастер Шторм (talk · contribs) essentially blanked Raja Ror I in October 2020 because it was cited entirely to unreliable British Raj-era sources (WP:RSCASTE) — Pontificalibus (talk · contribs) redirected it the following day because of lack of content. Today, I removed all the historical content at the target, including references to Raja Ror I, for the same reason. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - TrangaBellam (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: 157.36.10.245 has added a single sourced sentence on each.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 22:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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Brooder
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 1#Brooder
Wikipedia:666
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:07, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:666 → Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/O-Parts Hunter work group (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect to a task force that has been inactive since at least 2009, if not earlier. Created a month ago for unclear purposes. Primefac (talk) 21:32, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- In addition to the working group, Is there any user essay is about 666? If it still doesn't, then R to 666.--q28 (talk) 04:04, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Why do we need a redirect in Wikipedia space when we already have an article on the subject and 666 Satan already points to it? SpinningSpark 12:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. SpinningSpark 12:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete even in the unlikely case of someone deciding to look the Japanese title of O-Parts Hunter like this they would be using 666 Satan not 666.--65.93.194.2 (talk) 05:21, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Useless and should not be redirected to 666 as we normally do not creat redirects from Wikipedia namespace to articles Lunacats (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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A Young Man Dressed as a Gorilla Dressed as an Old Man Sits Rocking in a Rocking Chair for 56 Minutes and Then Leaves
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm Talk 20:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- A Young Man Dressed as a Gorilla Dressed as an Old Man Sits Rocking in a Rocking Chair for 56 Minutes and Then Leaves → Edinburgh Festival Fringe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless due to include there. signed, Rosguill talk 16:02, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- See https://www.whatsonstage.com/edinburgh-theatre/news/10-weirdest-edinburgh-fringe-show-names_41388.html — it's the name of a semi-popular show performed at the Fringe, which didn't have enough coverage to merit its own article, which is why I added it as a redirect. Yitz (talk) 20:05, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- I saw the link from the edit summary, but unless there's information about it at the target it is more likely to just confuse readers than help them. signed, Rosguill talk 02:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. No information about this show in the article. A7V2 (talk) 08:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete unless and until the target page contains relevant information. SpinningSpark 12:25, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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Kang Hye-won
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 2#Kang Hye-won
Naomi Higgins
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- The result of the discussion was Reverted to article. Purposely bypassing AFC is not against policy, even if that was true. AFC is not a compulsory process. What is against guidelines is creating this kind of cross-namespace redirect. The editors involved should decide themselves what, if anything or everything, should be merged from the draft. SpinningSpark 13:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Naomi Higgins → Draft:Naomi Higgins (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a redirect to the draft namespace, so it should be deleted per WP:R2, but there is a lot of text in old revisions of the page, and I'm not sure what to do with that. Stefan2 (talk) 11:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Restore. Why should an article redirect to a draft? I don't think the reason for redirecting
AfC was purposely bypassed
given by The Grid was valid. Both the redirect and target articles evolved independently. Jay (Talk) 17:48, 22 August 2021 (UTC) - @Jay: I want to assume good faith but the draft and article were made hours within each other. An CSD under A10 by Hatchens was denied for the same reasons as stated on Talk:Naomi Higgins. – The Grid (talk) 22:22, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- So did you do the redirect assuming that the AfC was purposely bypassed? And why to a draft? Jay (Talk) 07:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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Brack Lives Matter
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- The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete. G5'd - Created by a sock 192.76.8.74 (talk) 21:04, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Brack Lives Matter → Black Lives Matter (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Searching suggests that this is basically never an actual error; Google results seem to mainly be auto-translation errors. Borderline R3 as it was created today, but taking this here out of caution. Hog Farm Talk 05:16, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Jay (Talk) 07:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - implausible misspelling per nom Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:48, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. SunDawntalk 02:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Implausible misspelling. The letters r and l are nowhere near each other on a standard English keyboard. WIKINIGHTS talk 03:17, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I assume the multi-RfD'ed editor who created this rd was intended to create a little 'joke rd' involving the character Brak (character) but misspelled the name...it's not funny. Nate • (chatter) 21:30, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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The Midwestern States (2nd way to split it)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:54, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- The Midwestern States (2nd way to split it) → Midwestern United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This does not seem to be a plausible search term Hog Farm Talk 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This redirect, although it's been around since 2005, doesn't seem to get very many pageviews nowadays or be a very reliable search term. There are many ways to define which U.S. states are of which part of this region, so this second way is pretty ambiguous. Regards, SONIC678 02:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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The original picante sauce
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 29#The original picante sauce
X-wing violence
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Political violence. (non-admin closure) feminist (+) 06:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Right-wing violence → Right-wing terrorism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Left-wing violence → Left-wing terrorism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Violence ≠ Terrorism (pedantically, Terrorism ⊆ Violence, maybe). Redirect both to Political violence. signed, Rosguill talk 01:44, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to political violence. The current target article topics are very narrowly defined, so would exclude most left and right wing violence. It does not include for example state terrorism or violence that does not reach the level of terrorism. OTOH, all the sources I saw that referred to left and right wing violence used it as a synonym for left and right terrorism. TFD (talk) 02:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Political violence per nom, or delete. I also must admit, titling the discussion X-wing violence made it seem like the discussion was Star Wars related. 65.128.186.33 (talk) 04:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- The X-wing pun was intentional and the fun police will never catch me! signed, Rosguill talk 02:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to Political violence per nom. I thought this was a Star Wars RfD at first. --Lenticel (talk) 06:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- that actually brings up an interesting point—perhaps it should be made into a page about Star Wars, depending on if there's significant stand-alone sources talking specifically about X-wing violence...? Yitz (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Retarget: although I created the left-wing redirect, I agree with this one too.
- Comment - The suggested target, Political violence, doesn't mention left or right wing at all, let alone left or right wing violence (the only use of the word "left" is in the further reading section, and of "right" is referring to "rights" and nothing to do with the right wing) so I'm not really convinced that is a suitable target. A7V2 (talk) 09:05, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- It doesn't explicitly cover it by name, but by definition left/right-wing violence is political violence. Until someone writes an article about the left or right wing's use of violence, we have a choice between targeting to a more precise or more general topic, and I think that general is the way to go rather than potentially falsely imply to a reader that left or right wing violence is limited to terrorism. signed, Rosguill talk 02:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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Ish (slang)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:53, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ish (slang) → List of South African slang words (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 01:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - word can be found under “List of Afrikanerisms“ TapticInfo (talk) 06:42, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- I have removed it. You may want to add it with a citation. See a related list List of Puerto Rican slang words and phrases that is properly referenced. The current target list is waiting for mass deletion. Jay (Talk) 07:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- You have added it again but with a citation that does not mention the slang. Jay (Talk) 19:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. I've removed the entry from the target again. Faking references is serious misbehaviour on the part of the user and we shouldn't let this redirect stand unless and until it can be positively verified. SpinningSpark 10:33, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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South African restaurants
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:53, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Anat (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Andiccio24 (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Col’Cacchio (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Doppio Zero (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- FishAways (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mochacos (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mimmos (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mythos (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Nikos (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ocean Basket (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Simply Asia (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Pizza Perfect (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tashas (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kauai (Restaurant) → List of restaurants in South Africa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
None of these restaurants are mentioned at the target. In order to merit inclusion at the target, they would need to have an article, in which case these redirects should point at that article, not at the list, so they should be deleted. N.b. that some of these restaurant names are quite generic and exist in locations other than South Africa (e.g. Doppio Zero) signed, Rosguill talk 01:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom, these aren't useful to readers in their current form and are currently also unverifiable. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep all per no other suitable redirect, the current one makes sense until a specific article gets created for each restaurant TapticInfo (talk) 06:38, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all to encourage standalone article creation. All the redirects were created on 6th August. The proper way would have been to create WP:REDLINKs with citation at the target. Jay (Talk) 07:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all - redirecting towards a list that requires a stand-alone article to have an entry completely defeats the purpose and will confuse readers more than it will aid. Jay makes a good point about encouraging article creation by not having the redirect. Rosguill makes a good point about some of these restaurants having namesakes in other countries, so redirecting to a South African list would cause confusion, especially when the list that the reader gets redirected to makes no mention of said restaurant anyway Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:00, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all. Wasting readers time by redirecting to a page that has no information. SpinningSpark 13:32, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete all not listed on the target article (which only includes bluelinks). User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 00:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Some of the names look generic, so there could be more than one restaurant with the same name and in more than one country. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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I didn't inhale
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to 1992 United States presidential election#Character issues. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't inhale → Bill Clinton (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. Probably not useful as a redirect anyway, given that someone searching this up would presumably know it was Bill Clinton who said it - and someone who didn't wouldn't be well-served as currently there is no context as to why this redirects there. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:58, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. I fully agree with the nomination.--Bduke (talk) 07:37, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to 1992 United States presidential election#Character issues, where the matter is discussed. That would align this redirect with I did not inhale. - Eureka Lott 14:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to 1992 United States presidential election#Character issues, for same reason Eureka Lott gives. Yitz (talk) 20:11, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget per above; famous Clinton quote but the target should be a section where the term is discussed. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 00:48, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:TR
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- The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:TR → User:DESiegel/Template the regulars (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There are many other reasonable and useful targets for this redirect than an essay that is still in user space. I was looking for WP:RM/TR, but other plausible targets exist as multiple hatnotes. Retarget or disambiguate. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as there's a significant number of inbound links. While perhaps not the best target, I don't see how it's a severe enough issue to break a long-standing shortcut. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. —Locke Cole • t • c 01:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep if there are no other suitable targets. For WP:Requested moves/Technical requests, WP:RMT or WP:RMTR are better than WP:TR. For WP:Naming conventions (technical restrictions), WP:NCTR is fine. For the other hatnotes at current target (WP:User access levels, WP:Spam blacklist, and WP:Template limits), I did not find a TR connection. Jay (Talk) 06:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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