Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Solondz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Circumstances have changed: The article is now at University of Washington firebombing incident and will have Briana Waters merged into it. if the combined article is still problematic, re-nominate. Sandstein 05:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Solondz

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Not notable. BLP1E, only notable for one action. Moral Authority (talk) 15:08, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: article moved. Mid-discussion, this article was moved to University of Washington firebombing incident (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). —C.Fred (talk) 23:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources which indicates notaiblity to me.--Judo112 (talk) 15:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Were the attack significant in the ELF article, I would support a merge. However, it seems that he's two stages tangential, so as an alleged participant in an act not mentioned at the parent organization's article, he's not notable. —C.Fred (talk) 15:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per accusations. If he's convicted, re-assess notability. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 15:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 15:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator was a suspected sockpuppet and has since he was accused retired suddenly. Take this into account.--Judo112 (talk) 17:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and Rename article to University of Washington firebombing incident. BLP1E doesn't mean the article should be deleted outright necessarily... the event WAS notable so the article should cover the event. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 17:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No, renaming this article isn't suitable -- this guy wasn't even tried, never mind convicted. If you want an article on the firebombing, rename a more-suitable participant or create it from scratch. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have renamed it. lets keep that discussion on this articles discussion board. as you said Delete we will not be sure if your intentions with this. Not that i am questioning you.--Judo112 (talk) 17:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Bold, revert, discuss usually involves discussion, instead of move warring. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - I dont have anything more to say about the move than i have alreayd explained on this articles talk page. take it there instead. thanks:)--Judo112 (talk) 17:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        He wasn't tried and convicted because he's a fugitive. He apparently is wanted for the crime, nonetheless. If the article needs to be made to conform to NPOV and not imply he is guilty until proven innocent then so be it but this is no reason to delete an article that is now about a legitimate, notable event. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 22:24, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete renaming this article doesn't alter the fact it's one big BLP violation. RMHED. 20:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This person doesnt even bother to sign his comment..--Judo112 (talk) 08:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You cant say both Delete and Redirect. decide.. or both will be discounted.!--Judo112 (talk) 08:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to University of Washington firebombing incident since it is conceivable that "Justin Solondz" might be used as a search term. Location (talk) 20:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have to decide either redirect or delete. or else it will be discounted when the discussion is closed. thanks--Judo112 (talk) 08:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean to address me? Location (talk) 20:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I rest my case and let the closing admin decide if someone has done anything wrong or whatever. not accusing you. cheers.--Judo112 (talk) 20:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just wondering why it appears you are instructing me to "redirect or delete" when my recommendation was already "redirect". Location (talk) 20:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the rewritten form, the article is almost a stronger candidate for deletion, since the bombing incident is now just a coatrack on which to mention Solondz. —C.Fred (talk) 23:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and rename to University of Washington firebombing incidentThis individual is not notable enough for own WP:BIO. However the event itself is notable. This would be the correct application of WP:BLP1E. Nolamgm (talk) 19:40, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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