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Thanks for your tip. I have added a reference for each airport and changed the data for all the same year too. I resubmit the article for review today.CHCBOY (talk) 17:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! France3470 (talk) 15:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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All new routes require a firm dates in order for it to go into the destinations table (i.e. Skytrans Airlines at SYD) eventhough there is a source. Please take to WP:AIRPORTS if disagree. Snoozlepet (talk) 03:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Air Safaris (NZ)

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A tag has been placed on Air Safaris (NZ) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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I saw your note on Alan Liefting's page. The article did get userfied about 5 days ago, by User:5 albert square. See your user page: User:CHCBOY.-gadfium 00:36, 9 May 2012 (UTC). Thanks for that I did not see it before.CHCBOY (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

It has now been moved to User:cHCBOY/Air Safaris (NZ)--5 albert square (talk) 19:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't understand the message you left on my talk page. There was nothing on your user page before I moved the article there?--5 albert square (talk) 17:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Its Ok, on another thing How do I attach a photo to my article.CHCBOY (talk) 01:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC) {{Help me}}

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Thanks for your help CHCBOY (talk) 02:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Sionk (talk) 23:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The article currently isn't sourced to multiple, independent and reliable sources that talk about the subject in-depth. Unfortunately it needs this evidence to show that it is widely notable before the article can be accepted. Wikipedia isn't a business directory for every small airline. The 'notability' guidelines for companies also request at least some evidence that the company has been talked about in general news sources (rather than just specialist magazines). Sionk (talk) 11:56, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks Nathan I am really rapted will be still working on it to improve it.CHCBOY (talk) 10:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi CHCBOY, I've reverted your change of name of the above article. Air Safaris Ltd is an inappropriate name - the 1962 airline is also called Air Safaris Ltd. The NZ company is not referred to as Air Safaris Ltd in any of the sources. Normally we don't use the legal status of a company in its Wikipedia name. I've moved the page back to a name that differentiates it from the other airline. You may want to take a look (if you haven't already) at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies) and Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Disambiguation page or hatnotes?. Sionk (talk) 11:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for List of tallest buildings in Christchurch

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Would you know about the Oaks iStay? Schwede66 04:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I heard through a contact it was to come down as in the eastern frame. Cera to buy up all the existing buildings if they are damaged or not they have to make way for the new park. But searching for an article on Oaks Hotel, I came up with nothing useful so far to put into our article. I was looking for info on a future demo of it no announcements yet in the media. CHCBOY (talk) 15:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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I see you have created Mainland air by copying and pasting the contents of the draft User:CHCBOY/Mainland Air. Unfortunately, this leaves the history of the article behind with the draft, and we are required to keep this history as part of the copyright of the various contributors to the article. If this had been an article you created in your userspace as a draft, and which had no other contributors, this would not have been a problem, but this article was created by others and moved to your userspace so you could rescue it from deletion.

As a minor issue, you have named it with a lower case "air" but the company title uses an uppercase.

I suggest you proceed by tagging the mainspace article as {{Db-author}}, and then using the Move button to move the draft out of your userspace to the correct title. You will then have to re-apply changes made to the mainspace version, but these do not look to be substantial.

Alternatively, please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen to have the history merged with the article. I have the tools to do this merger, but it's a slightly tricky procedure which is best left to someone who does this frequently.-gadfium 23:45, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gadfium, about the title I checked the website [[1]] and it has their title written MAINLANDair one word so that was why I used that version in the Wikipedia title for the airline. I did try to attach the old history with the new history page and asked for help as well but so far no reply. As you said its a bit tricky can we request it get done by a proffesional.CHCBOY (talk) 10:44, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Their website does use different forms of the name but in plain text the version "Mainland Air" is used. I see @Airplaneman: has taken care of the histmerge for us.-gadfium 04:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Small note: I am very far from a "professional". Airplaneman ✈ 04:11, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help much appreciated, cheersCHCBOY (talk) 09:40, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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G'day, you have been around long enough by now to know the need to reference properly, with access date and so on; why don't you do it? YSSYguy (talk) 11:28, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok I have fixed up the ref with a news title and date on the Alliance page.CHCBOY (talk) 11:57, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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I've maxed out on 3RR at AKL, so please continue to monitor both articles. I've already requested a knowledgeable admin to protect both, but as we just saw there are experienced editors who don't understand. HkCaGu (talk) 00:36, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

• • Thanks for your work, yes I see the page has been semi-protected now which is good until the firm date is announced by the airline then we can all move on with this episode.CHCBOY (talk) 16:52, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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yes, sorry for any misunderstanding but Air Post isn't currently listed as an active company within the NZ Companies office register; therefore if it is not defunct, what was the outcome of this nz post company? please check reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slick1nz (talk • contribs) 21:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Ok I will try and find some evidence if it is still operating and will report back with an update on its page soon.CHCBOY (talk) 02:54, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

thank you, and again sorry for any missunderstanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.224.92.253 (talk) 03:47, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, I see that you want to keep destination maps on airports' pages. In that discussion lots of editors agreed to remove destination maps from airports and airlines. I've read again this discussion and just one editor disagreed with the proposal, but at the end he didn't say anything. Then, if you have a look here, you'll find clearly written "Do not add destination maps, this makes the Wikipedia look like a travel guide. It is also considered that they are a duplicate of information...". So I see no reasons to keep it on airports' articles like Auckland Airport. Thank you. Wjkxy (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

• Actually it was two editors Ashill and csalinka who gave good reason for them to stay also Hawaiian 717 in the previous discussion. You can also see the Auckland Airport talk page for why it should be kept in. The WP Not Travel Guide note is only a suggestion for articles and not compulsory for all to follow.CHCBOY (talk) 20:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
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All companies operating aircraft commercially must have an air operator's certificate (AOC). If you are operating a single Robinson R-22 and doing traffic reports for a radio station, you need an AOC. If you have a Fletcher FU24 and are spraying crops, you need an AOC. If you are taking photographs for Google Maps from a Cessna 172, you need an AOC. If you are teaching people to fly, you need an AOC. Conducting organ transplant flights in a Cessna Citation? You must have an AOC. If you are being paid to carry someone shooting deer out of a Hughes 500, you must have an AOC. Doing scenic flights in a Nomad from Lake Tekapo over Aoraki? You must have an AOC. If you are operating Aerospatiale Ecuriel helicopters up onto Fox Glacier, you must have an AOC. Having an AOC does not make a company an airline.

The onus is on you to demonstrate that the companies in the list are actually licensed as airlines. Glenorchy Air isn't - it says so on its own website: "Glenorchy Air is a fixed wing scenic flight company". Ridge Air isn't; from its website: "RidgeAir NZ is a fully professional Air Transport Charter Operator operating New Zealand wide. We also offer Multi Engine Advanced Instrument Flight Training." Island Air Charter isn't; from its website: "All flight prices promoted on this website are based on minimum passenger numbers being met. If these minimum numbers are not met, the price per seat will increase to offset the missing seat(s)." That isn't an airline operation, that is an air charter operation. Mountain Air isn't; from its website: "Flights leave on demand with a minimum of 2 people". That isn't an airline operation. I looked carefully at the various companies' websites and I also looked carefully at various pages on the CAA website; what research did you do, other than glance at a Wikipedia article that lacks references for the information it contains, and then use that unreferenced information as justification for undoing my earlier edit? YSSYguy (talk) 14:22, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

• You are so rude and insulting! But that is how you act to all other users on wikipedia. For your information I did not just glance at the article. You are making up false alegations about me on here. I not used any unreferenced info to justify anything the definition is from wiki on what an airline is. I not make it up they can be either charter or scheduled operators. Most of those are the later category. So not have to be scheduled operation only. Anyway there is no use trying to argue with you its just a waist of time. You always make sure you have it your way.CHCBOY (talk) 05:05, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Your earlier edit summary was "But that is the definition of an airline in wikipedia why do you think they are not airlines you not have reason for it yet." I do not know anything about you. I assume you are male; I assume you are living in or near Christchurch; I assume that you are working Airside at CHC, but I do not know if that is accurate and I do not know what you do for a job. I do not know whether you know what is an airline or how much you know about airline operations; based on what you have stated and done up to now, I assume that you don't know much - but I do not know. You posted "why do you think they are not airlines you not have reason for it", in the message above you now have my reason (which took me two hours of work to compose before I posted it), as well as a bit of education as to what is (or more accurately what isn't) an airline. Despite this it seems you still do not understand the difference between a charter company or scenic flight operator and an airline. The companies themselves state on their websites that they are not airlines. Above you posted "You are making up false alegations [sic] about me on here. I not [sic] used any unreferenced info to justify anything the definition is from wiki on what an airline is." Well, as the only definition of what is an airline in the Airline article is the Lead, and the Lead has no references, then Yes, you actually have "used unreferenced info". Now, where is the insult? YSSYguy (talk) 07:08, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

The insult is that you think I not know anything, well you assume that. Does not make it true. You can read who I am on my user page. So don't make any more assumptions about me. I find it highly offensive.CHCBOY (talk) 13:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi there! I'm writing an article about Burnside High School in russian. Could you help me, please? Specifically, I'm looking for a picture of symbolic Burnside High School's cabbage tree spot. Would you like to take a shot and upload it to Commons, please? I'll appreciate your help! Thanks! --Voyagerim (talk) 13:02, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

• Hi, Yes I can get some photos and up load them may take a week until I get it done will let you know when they are ready.CHCBOY (talk) 15:06, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you very much!! --Voyagerim (talk) 15:54, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I got a few photos added to the commons here are them: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:View_of_Burnside_High_School_entrance.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burnside_High_School_main_building.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burnside_High_School_cabbage_tree.jpg CHCBOY (talk) 03:14, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much!! I appreciate it! --Voyagerim (talk) 22:36, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Hope the pictures are OK. As it is very difficult to take them as it is so bright in NZ which gives you a lot of glare when taking pictures.CHCBOY (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

You've made amazing pictures, thank you! It should be noted, that historical cluster of cabbage trees grows in the grounds of Burnside High School, just in few meters to left from your shooting spot :) Here is that place on Google Street View, and This is the article about those plants. Also you can find some picures of it on the Internet. So, I'm wondering if you could be so nice and visit that place again for that stand's image, if possible! Your previously uploaded pictures age going to illustrate the article Burnside High School. Thank you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voyagerim (talk • contribs) 21:28, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hi there, CHCBOY. Regarding this [2], please note that there is an entry for Hayman Island with daily flights to Hamilton Island (QF2555). Cheers.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:59, 6 February 2018 (UTC) Ok thanks I looked before but did not see it on the timetable. It might be a launch service though as there is no airport on the Island. According to google maps. So I removed the entry of the non existant airport. CHCBOY (talk) 22:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

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Air Auckland and Salt Air's services.

As mentioned on their respective websites, both airlines operate daily scheduled flights.--Biponacci (talk) 00:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC) I can't find any scheduled flights on Salt Air website anywhere only charters with nothing timetabled as such however the Air Auckland has timetabled flights under air taxi from Ardmore so this can be included. Salt Air previously had scheduled services about 2 years ago. But nothing listed now probably due to the change of owner. CHCBOY (talk) 03:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

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CHCBOY, earlier today, I removed the company slogan from Kiwi Regional Airlines. This is because this parameter is no longer supported in Infoxbox Airline and puts the page in the maintenance category Category:Pages_using_infobox_airline_with_company_slogan to be fixed. You reverted my change. I am going to make this correction again. If you revert my correction a second time, it will be considered vandalism. If you really think a marketing slogan belongs in an encyclopedia article, put it in the body of the article, not in the infobox. Dhpage (talk) 21:37, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks for the explanation as it was not obvious why on the page itself why you were doing the edit. CHCBOY (talk) 17:46, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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Yes I think it should have gone earlier and good points raised why it should go. CHCBOY (talk) 03:12, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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It is actually used on the Nauru Airlines page above the infobox that is why it was uploaded in the first place CHCBOY (talk) 02:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

EK flight from AKL-KUL

Hi. This segment is not bookable on Emirates website even though is listed on there departure board. 97.82.30.107 (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes it's not bookable via their website so it's valid to be removed as an entry, it's strange that it shows up on the departure screen though CHCBOY (talk) 00:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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Air Kaikoura to Wellington

Hello CHCBOY, you seem like a reasonable contributor and it's a honor to be writing to you.

The reason Im here is because of the Edit to Wellington Airport. Air Kaikoura no longer services this airport; that information is on their article and also on their website. It seems that now they only do charters around a bay, no longer flying scheduled services. Thanks and God bless you! Antonio Kaikoura Martin (Que paso, amigo?) 19:45, 3 August, 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for providing now a reason for your edit as originally the entry was removed without an explanation on the WLG page. Take care CHCBOY (talk) 10:25, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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Jetstar hub.

Can you provide a reliable secondary reference that states Jetstar has a hub in Auckland. Simply that you can transfer at an airport does not make it a hub it needs to be something built into its business model. Maungapohatu (talk) 18:44, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

We won't be able to find a secondary source for hub even for Air NZ at Auckland. There is no mention in the media. However Jetstar Auckland hub fits the definition for a hub from the Airline hub Wikipedia page. Plus Auckland is listed under the Jetstar infobox as the hub for New Zealand. CHCBOY (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

This is from the hub page:

An airline hub or hub airport is an airport used by one or more airlines to concentrate passenger traffic and flight operations. Hubs serve as transfer (or stop-over) points to help get passengers to their final destination.[a][b] It is part of the hub-and-spoke system. An airline may operate flights from several non-hub (spoke) cities to the hub airport, and passengers traveling between spoke cities connect through the hub. CHCBOY (talk) 00:04, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

So by this definition the Jetstar operation at Auckland would be regarded as a hub. CHCBOY (talk) 00:07, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

I have to disagree - you are going to need a reference for this to stay as is made absolutely clear in WP:BURDEN Maungapohatu (talk) 04:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

There is no reference for this. It's the same for Air NZ and actually I can't find any references on others eg Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne Airport pages. Have you come across any on Wikipedia? CHCBOY (talk) 06:53, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

As a third party, I'd say that Jetstar doesn't have any 'hubs' full-stop as a low cost carrier (LCC), I can find very little secondary sources refer to the Jetstar hubs as 'hubs', and some of the primary sources refer to the Jetstar 'hubs' as 'bases' (ie Melbourne Base, Sydney Base, etc). On a similar matter, I can only find some secondary sources stating that AKL is a hub for Air New Zealand, and like with Jetstar, I can't seem to find any primary sources stating that Air New Zealand has their 'hub' at Auckland, despite NZ clearly scheduling AKL as a hub. Coastie43 (talk) 09:47, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

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Per WP:BURDEN, it is you who need to provide proper sources. The link to the covid cut is certainly not an adequate source, as the flight was still active in 2022 ([3]. The Banner talk 21:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

It's you that needs to provide a source that it's still in operation as you haven't provided it. It is not listed on the Moscow page and it's also listed as terminated on the Aeroflot page. You still need a valid source for it. That is why I put CN a month ago. I have provided a source that it was cancelled but you still have yet to provide any source to match your claims. CHCBOY (talk) 23:09, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

No, my friend. You claimed that the flight was cut. Unfortunately, based on a source that made it clear that was because of Covid. I gave you a link that the connection was still active after the flight was cut according to you. Did you miss all the internation sanctions against Russia, including closing of airspace? So please, provide sources that the flight was cut. The Banner talk 23:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Where is the link as you have not provided any source that it's just suspended. It has not been operating for a very long time. CHCBOY (talk) 23:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I am still waiting for your source that the flights were cut as you are claiming. Conform WP:BURDEN. The Banner talk 00:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Actually it's the other way round as from WP: Burden

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So therefore it's you that needs to provide the source as you keep adding it in without one. CHCBOY (talk) 02:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

You were the one to claim that the route was cut without any evidence beside an outdated and clearly incorrect link to Covid-measures. I am still waiting for your evidence that the route was cut.

And yes, I can prove that the connection was suspended due to international sanctions but your removal is now the first problem at hand. The Banner talk 09:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I have been asking you for the evidence for a month now but still you refuse to provide it CHCBOY (talk) 14:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I am still waiting for your proof that the connection was cut. You give a source from 2021 that the connection was cut due to Covid-related reasons. But there is a source that makes clear that the connection was reinstated after that. So per WP:BURDEN, it is up to you to provide the source of the cut. The Banner talk 09:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Finally you provide a source now after all this argument but your source is 23 months old so not very up to date either. The flight has not been operating over the last 12 months as you probably already know. CHCBOY (talk) 10:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

That is correct, but it still proves that the flight was active after you claimed it was cut. The Banner talk 10:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

That is all very much pendantik argument about the past but it's not operating since. CHCBOY (talk) 10:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Why is asking for sources that the connection is cut pedantic? We have WP:V and WP:BURDEN in place. We don't have a policy WP:ISAYSOSOITISTRUE. The Banner talk 11:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

We go round and round in circles you are saying it's true by keep adding it in CHCBOY (talk) 20:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I am not saying that it is true or not. I am asking for a source to back up your claim that the connection was cut. The Banner talk 21:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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You were also involved in edit war so you were not inicent CHCBOY (talk) 02:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hilary picture, Wellington Airport

Hi there. I removed the Hilary picture form the page because Hilary is not mentioned in the text and it's not a particularly good image of the hangar. I will try to find a better picture of the hangar. Was the HIlary visit significant? Wainuiomartian (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

It's really only the best photo of the 3 photos next to the history section. As it was taken in 1956 it's not a perfect image but there is not any others on wiki from that era unfortunately. CHCBOY (talk) 03:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

August 2024

Hello, I'm JalenFolf. I noticed that you recently removed all content from Picton Airport (New Zealand). Please do not do this. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. As a rule, if you discover a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If a page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you wish to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 15:42, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jalen we could change it to the Picton Aerodrome page as it is the one in use for it CHCBOY (talk) 21:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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