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Happy editing! I dream of horses ^{(Contribs) (Talk)} 20:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Your comments at Talk:OceanGate

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:OceanGate. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. For similar reasons, using all caps or excessive bolded text in comments is generally frowned upon. See also our talk page guidelines. You seem to be leaving decent contributions otherwise, so keep calm and carry on. Best regards, --Licks-rocks (talk) 21:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

@Licks-rocks Hi, if you re-read (please do re-read) the exchange between me and the other user, are you genuinely comfortable telling me that I "attacked" them? Certainly I was exasperated and I vented that exasperation. I will agree that I lost my cool.

As to the 'all caps'. I had written at some length in my prior contribution, and the user in question came along and hastily dismissed what I had written for the most part, also posing a wholly unintelligible question. Sometimes it is necessary to raise one's voice to be heard.

A protected edit change that I requested late Monday or early Tuesday had been actioned without acknowledgment or a 'tag' against my request. I hadn't looked at the article afresh so was unaware of this. The other user, in the same talk contrib where they caution me for being aggressive, goes so far as to imply/state that the error I was asking to be corrected did not/never did exist. There is a clear element of Orwellian gaslighting going on there. Furthermore, my talk contrib was specifically challenging an incorrect assertion that user had made in their talk contrib that I was replying to (namely, persisting in referring to 'displacement' where the source refers to 'weight').

Please take the time to read the exchange again as a respectful acknowledgement of the time I am taking to bring this to your attention. I'll take a sanction for losing my cool: however the other user in my opinion bears a larger part of the blame for the path taken by our correspondence. Please don't go down the oft-treaded path of assuming better faith on the part of a user with an (unlinked) username versus one contributing via an IP.

Addendum - you thank me for my contributions. Thank you for that. Please note that (for reasons I don't understand) my IP address is changing frequently. I'm using my mobile phone as a wireless hotspot as opposed to having a separate broadband service. I've made many contributions in the last week, prompted by some of the incorrect media/wikipedia details published around the Titan disaster. Most of my contributions have resulted in changes being adopted and most of my contributions are attributed to IP addresses slightly different from that presently shown.

2A00:23EE:2120:27FF:6DEC:D014:ED5B:3E36 (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry, no sanctions are pending for a single slip-up. this is simply a semi-standardized reminder to keep a cool head. Don't make it a pattern and you'll be fine.

With regards to the first question: I thought about it for a bit before placing the warning, and came to the conclusion that I am. The combination of all caps text, bolding and "you should go edit elsewhere if you don't understand" made you come off as more hostile than you maybe intended. Don't get me wrong, it's not like, excessively angry to social media standards, but Wikipedia is a bit more formal than most spaces on the internet, so the tone you should be aiming for is more "email to your boss" if that makes sense.

With regards to your second question: An IP changing-semi regularly is a fairly normal occurrence. As I understand it, the're often assigned in "ranges" meaning one location cycles between multiple similar IP's over time, and if your phone moves your IP will depend on location as well. --Licks-rocks (talk) 22:19, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

@Licks-rocksThank you for this. It is appreciated. I don't expect you to share this with me, but I hope you at least considered taking issue with the other user for their apparent gaslighting. I'm not going to revisit the conversation now, but I did think there was a clear element of "what are you talking about? Nobody ever said that..." in their reply to me. I find the process of comparing edits or finding out when (and by whom) an edit was made. But I do know without a doubt that the edit I was championing was an issue in the last 24 hours and the error is definitively echoed/logged in the other user's talk contributions.

I don't intend to become a registered WP user because, in common I am certain with many people, I have an extreme love-hate relationship with Wikipedia. It's my go-to source of information on some/many things yet I revile it.

It is so frustrating to make detailed, reasoned, intelligent and rational suggestions or comments, only to have a "seasoned" editor come along and dismiss them at the drop of a hat. And then run to the nearest grown up to complain because someone addressed them in a frank (and appropriate) manner.

My first ever edit (22.56 27 November 2018) was on Go Set a Watchman where the text described Scout Finch's "annual, fortnightly visit to her father Atticus". I corrected it to "annual, fortnight-long visit...", giving the reason as "fortnightly" meaning once per fortnight as opposed to "fortnight-long" meaning lasting for a fortnight. The original text (above) meant 'occurring every year, every fortnight'. The editor who had taken it upon himself to be 'in charge' of the article promptly undid the edit with 'correct as it was. Removing bad grammar'. I made the edit again and my associated description left nothing to the imagination. My edit stands.

There is a real hypocrisy in WP supposedly being "for everyone", while the reality is (and I am not alone in this opinion) it is a vehemently guarded place where a minority rule the roost.

I've only become a regular contributor in the last week, prompted by masses of clearly incorrect media/wikipedia information/disinformation around the Titan incident. I hope/intend to stop contributing now that the incident is closed. I do not find the editorial side of WP to be a healthy or satisfying online arena.

While I hope you have no reason to block my IP, you'd honestly be doing me a favour if you did.

My interaction with you has been very positive, but I am done interacting with WP in an editorial way. It is what it is, and I'll revert to taking what I read with a pinch of salt and leaving it in the hands of people with too much time on their hands.

x 2A00:23EE:2120:27FF:1010:6E3A:FC2D:C806 (talk) 23:01, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 06:01, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

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