Draft talk:Untitled X-Men film

The Mutants?

Is Deadline Hollywood a good enough source to change the title of the article? Interestingly enough, it's also appears to be a series of Doctor Who episodes. Interesting. - Richiekim (talk) 23:46, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Normally I would say so, but since the SDCC panel is only days away I think there's no harm in waiting. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

I do not believe we can jump the gun and say this is the title. That article also says "The Blade" for the Blade film (and I would prefer not to go down that rabbit hole again), and besides, any potential announcements for it will either be at SDCC or D23, so we should wait until whenever it is announced to make any page moves. Noting it seems fine for now, but only time will tell on this. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:06, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

I feel like this came up at the last SDCC where Feige first mentioned "The Mutants" and said that it wasn't actually called that. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Rename draft

Per the discussion at Talk:List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films (here), I think this draft needs to be renamed to remove "film" from its title. I had suggested Draft:Marvel Studios' mutant project, while Trailblazer101 suggested Draft:Untitled Marvel Studios mutant project or Draft:Untitled Marvel mutant project. Out of these three options, I'd go with either mine or Trailblazer's first option. Please comment on these, or suggest other ones for consideration. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

To note, I would go with my first option and we could use the others as redirects. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Of those options, I'd go with Trailblazer's first one. -- Zoo (talk) 02:27, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Given it has been a while since this and the other discussion took place, I'd like to reignite this since it appears we are in agreement on the title, and just want to make sure everyone is cool with it. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I like Draft:Untitled Marvel Studios mutant project. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:59, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm cool with that as well. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Nice. I'll make the move soon, though I'd like to resolve the current RfD of the mainspace redirect first so things can hopefully transition smoothly. Trailblazer101 (talk) 01:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

This should be independent of the RfD, and we can move before its closure. We will then need to reformat much of the article to cover its neutral state ie probably having no infobox, removing "film" throughout, and removing categories. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Got it. I'm working on adjusting the draft now. Will move very shortly. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

I have completed the move and adjustments, and made a new mainspace redirect with the current title. Trailblazer101 (talk) 06:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Noting that Lesslie is actually hired

In Deadline's article, the following terminology is all used: in the heading - "Comes On As"; first paragraph - "in negotiations"; second paragraph - "the decision was made to go with"; third paragraph - "Even with Lesslie officially boarding". The heading we can generally ignore because the trades use wording similarly and then go with "in negotiations" in the body (as is done here with the first paragraph). I'm looking particularly at that third paragraph language with Kroll saying he's "officially [on board]". That to me surpasses the "just in negotiations" aspect of this. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

My main cautious perspective on this is the fact that THR and Variety also use "in talks" to characterize Lesslie's involvement at this stage. While I understand your point about Deadline and Kroll saying "Even with Lesslie officially boarding", that to me seems to be more indicative of a final negotiations-type situation rather than a deal having actually been finalized just yet, as "boarding" could likely mean in this sense that he is/will be joining the project but there are probably some terms left to finalize before signing off on a deal, though it does seem clear Lesslie is going to be the writer. This could just be similar to how Shakman's deal was being finalized for FF ahead of D23 two years ago, so maybe we'll get some more direct clarity that actually says he was hired. The lack of that term/verbiage and the fact that three sources all say essentially the same thing leads me to hold off on calling it 100% definitive just yet. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Having been chosen for the role and being "officially [on board]" doesn't mean he has completed negotiations, it just means it is very unlikely that the deal won't go through. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)