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August 22

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 22, 2024.

Libitum

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 13:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target, but readers might also be looking for Ad libitum. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:23, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further thoughts on the redirect suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Heidosmat

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Rolleicord#Heidosmat. (non-admin closure) C F A 💬 16:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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South Korea 1988 (Olympics host)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abhiramakella recently created a bunch of redirects with the "Country YYYY (Olympics host)" format to that year's Olympics article. However "Olympics host" would indicate what the Olympics host did in that Olympics, so some of them have been retargeted to the "Country at the Olympics" article. Olympic games are marketed as a city, not a country, so I can't imagine someone searching with this format anyway. Due to the ambiguity and implausibility, these should be deleted. -- Tavix (talk) 18:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per nom. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Stetson Bennett's final college football game

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created as a way to sidestep consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 26#Stetson Bennett's final game. This isn't a plausible search term. Also, no one else has redirects of this type (nor should they) so there is no expectation of having such a redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 18:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing incorrect about my nomination statement. The redirects of this type for Payton Manning would be Peyton Manning's final college football game or Peyton Manning's final game (college football) targeting the 1998 Orange Bowl. -- Tavix (talk) 21:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Anti universe

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was disambiguate. There is support for disambiguation, and the participants, or any editor may turn it into a disambiguation page with the suggested entries. Jay 💬 17:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antiverse redirects to multiverse. Anti universe sometimes also refers to an antigravity universe, not just antimatter universe. Web-julio (talk) 02:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Anti-universalist redirects to Universalism. Steel1943 (talk) 03:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of countries by Military Strength Index

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. I will note for the record that Military Strength Index is currently red. -- Tavix (talk) 20:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a {{R from merge}}, but no such list exists at the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted in 2020 as fallout from Talk:Military/Archive 1#About Updating the military power comparison list Capability development section * Pppery * it has begun... 21:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It exist in the history of the target, see [1]. Christian75 (talk) 19:30, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A.e.t.

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. The nomination was withdrawn by the nominator. (non-admin closure) Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is a.e.t. used in any sports besides association football? I can't find any evidence of another sport using it, but I could be missing results for less popular sports. If not, I propose that we retarget this redirect to go directly the to Overtime (sports)#Association football section instead of just to the Overtime (sports) article. Wburrow (talk) 16:30, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, After extra time redirects to the section, not the article. Wburrow (talk) 17:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment AET seems to be used for handball too [2], [3]. Google doesn't distinguish between "a.e.t." and "AET" though so I can't say for certain the dotted lowercase isn't exclusive to football. Thryduulf (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks - to me that's enough reason to leave A.e.t. alone (and one of the articles you linked to does use the dotted lowercase). Given that, I think After extra time should be retargeted back to the article. I just looked at the page history, and it was boldly retargeted to the section by an IP editor just a couple weeks ago after an RfD in 2015 that resulted in targeting the article. Is this case where I can just revert the IP's edit and we can close this discussion, or do we need a more formal process? (I'm still new to editing at this level.) Wburrow (talk) 17:45, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have reverted the IP's edit to the redirect as unexplained and added that multiple sports use the term "extra time." — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the redirect as it is, redirecting to the article lead instead of the association football section. As Wburrow seems to have indicated the same willingness to leave the redirect as it is, I would like to suggest that they formally withdraw the RfD to allow for early closure. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Request withdrawn I withdraw my proposal per the above discussion. Wburrow (talk) 21:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CountryName Year redirects to 2026 FIFA World Cup

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

"CountryName Year" redirects are not unambiguously related to events and, per past precedence on the matter, should not be targeted to them. Proposing deletion until a 2026 article for the "YYYY in Country" articles are created. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CAF Cepia

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Restore article without prejudice to AfD. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 21:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of "Cepia" at the target page. Was recently BLAR'd after no response from the page's creator at Talk:CAF Cepia, as the name "Cepia" was seemingly not found anywhere in relation. But furthermore, it's not a helpful redirect as there is no information about this title at the target page, either, nor anywhere on Wikipedia. (AfD might potentially be a suitable venue if non-notable). Utopes (talk / cont) 16:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Restore and send to AfD as is the correct course of action when an article is BLARed but there is no suitable redirect target, the content is not speedy deletable and has never been subject to a consensus discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 17:31, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It depends. I do want to note that I am opposed to a closer sending this to AfD "procedurally". Leave that step for someone who actually wants the article deleted. -- Tavix (talk) 17:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Revert to status quo. This was just redirected yesterday, so an improper redirection (due to a lack of mention at the target) should have just been reverted. -- Tavix (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do whatever; as the editor that blanked and redirected the article, I wouldn't be opposed to a restoration and AfD, I don't have the time and energy to do it myself right now. If in this case the BLAR was out of process, as the redirect term isn't on the taget page, I'll brush up my knowledge on the relevant policies before doing deletion-related editing in the future. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 21:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ragg tuning fork

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 30#Ragg tuning fork

Quaternary extinction event

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 21:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May also refer to Holocene extinction as well as the Holocene is also in the Quaternary Isla🏳️‍⚧ 10:29, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Infantile

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wikt:infantile. Jay 💬 13:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely ambiguous with Infantilism. Retarget there or add the disambiguation page to the (long) hatnote already present? 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Great-children

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Family#Roles. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 08:32, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure this refers to anything meaningful. FWIW, Grandchild redirects to Family#Roles. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Family or Family#Roles. Additionally, I found that Great-grandchild also targets Family (just not the #Roles section), while Great-grandchildren does target #Roles. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 06:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The "great" prefix is only used in conjunction with the "grand" prefix existing; without the "grand" prefix, the "great" prefix makes no sense, so let's not pretend like it does. Steel1943 (talk) 15:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Striking my vote. See my response to Thryduulf for further details. Steel1943 (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per SmittenGalaxy. Contra Steel, the term is used without "grand", see e.g. "my great children and great nephews and nieces"[5], "My great children loved the visit"[6], "It's a gift for my great children and should bring back happy memories to my grand son" [7], "I visit all of my children, then I visit all of my grandchildren, then all of my great children etc" [8], "I will be sharing my Nan’s memories about her Dad and Mum and also the memories of Eileen’s grandchildren and a few of her Great-Children."[9]. Thryduulf (talk) 18:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Must be an American versus British English difference I was not aware of then. I like to believe I know most differences between American and British English, and to my knowledge, in American English, the prefix "great" always requires a "grand" prefix after it somewhere when referring to direct ancestors or descendants (children or parents), which does not apply to aunts, uncles, nephews, or nieces. I guess British English is different in this regard? Anywho, my vote has been struck. Steel1943 (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not something I've heard in British English either, I just thought I'd check to see whether it did actually get used (kinship terms can be weird). I didn't think to see if it was an AE/BE thing, but based on the very small sample size of the five links above it doesn't seem to be - 2 are from the UK, 1 from the US, 1 from Canada and 1 wasn't able to quickly determine. Thryduulf (talk) 23:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is "Great-children" truly a plausible search term? Relisting… since participants do not seem entirely convinced.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:33, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @CycloneYoris: I see two !votes to retarget as a useful search term and one stricken delete in response to the detail in the second retarget recommendation. The only unconvinced I see is whether this is specifically a British English expression. Thryduulf (talk) 15:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Enjoyment

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Joy. ✗plicit 06:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like this could use some consistency. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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OoX

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 4#OoX

Home computer game

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 9#Home computer game

Template:Wpest

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 21:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These unused redirects to be deleted:

Rationale: Yes, redirects are cheap, but hinders data analysis. E.g. if I want to clean up talk pages consisting of the string "WikiProject Estonia|class=start", then I have to enter all above-mentioned redirects names. Estopedist1 (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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