User talk:Jaknouse/Archive 2

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Monosolenium

Do you have a source? I've never heard of a fern gametophyte growing as a submerged aquatic. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

|Yes, go to the page susswassertang; it's posted there.jaknouse (talk) 13:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:01, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Llavea

A tag has been placed on Llavea, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.

If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 05:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

EXCUSE ME for not spending ALL my time on Wikipedia. Llavea is now at least a stub. I'm working as fast as I can. jaknouse (talk) 14:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of William Dunlop Brackenridge

A tag has been placed on William Dunlop Brackenridge requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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This is one of the most asinine pieces of crap I ever saw. I saved the page only because I needed to exit to get more information ready, was gone ONLY A FEW SECONDS, and you did this horseshit. I'm going back to working on it now, and deleted your snide little stub. jaknouse (talk) 23:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

There, NOW look at the page. I'm sorry, I can't work as fast as Superman. jaknouse (talk) 23:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Georg Hans Emmo Wolfgang Hieronymus

The article Georg Hans Emmo Wolfgang Hieronymus has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

no evidence

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I WILL get to this. I just have discovered that I can't spend ALL my time on Wikipedia. Life interferes. But Hieronymus is the citation for many species, and he is a historical botanist, and I WILL restore the page if deleted. Thanks. jaknouse (talk) 15:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Philip Dowell

A tag has been placed on Philip Dowell requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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I won't pretend that this is a particularly important botanist, but he has been the author of a number of plant names. However, I was not given a chance to do ANYTHING about this. I would think that a speedy deletion tag should have to allow at least a day for response. After all, this was not a frivolous page, but a legitimate reference for scientific citations. jaknouse (talk) 03:09, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

There's about a two week backlog on new page assessment which gives the author time to build up the article. As I recall there was absolutely no indication of notability in the article. --Chuunen Baka (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

The page was deleted about 13 hours after the notice was posted. jaknouse (talk) 22:53, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Autoreviewer

Hi, after seeing one of your articles at newpage patrol, I was surprised to see that an editor who has contributed quite so many articles as you over such a long period hadn't already been approved as an wp:Autoreviewer. So I've taken the liberty of rectifying that. Also whilst I'm here would you like me to restore Philip Dowell and move it to a sandbox for you? That way you could resume editing and move it to article space when its finished. ϢereSpielChequers 23:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi Jaknouse; I wonder if you would be kind enough to use edit summaries a bit more.[1] I know it can be a lot of trouble, but I would be grateful if you would consider it. Best wishes and please ignore my suggestion if it is unhelpful, Walter Siegmund (talk) 06:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to do this. Are there particular types of pages you're watching?jaknouse (talk) 10:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I saw your edits to Aspidotis densa and Adiantum.[2][3] They are on my watchlist because I've contributed photographs, but I haven't contributed content to ferns. I thought they were probably fine judging from the lack of drama on your talk page, but I saw only two summaries on the first page of your contributions. So I checked soxred's tool and saw that you've been contributing since before I started in 2005. I should have looked at your userpage, I know, but I often forget to do that. Splendid work, by the way. I have autofill turned on in my browser so I can add a common edit summary with one keystroke. I don't know if something like that would work for you. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I finally got the concept of categories thru my head, and realized that each thing should be entered at the LOWEST level category to which it belongs, but I'm also going to create a new category, fern species, that will list ONLY individual species pages for a comprehensive listing. I just wish I had a faster Internet connection. The drama, by the way, is because some people are overly eager to delete things quickly, without a simple check to see that they're being worked on. jaknouse (talk) 17:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to see someone working on ferns. I hope to photograph most of the ferns in my region over the next year. Also, I plan to make more progress on the mosses, liverworts and lichens. It is vexing when an article is deleted abruptly, especially when the administrator should be able to recognize that it should be retained. Sometimes, to avoid that problem, I write an article offline and paste it into the Wikipedia edit box.[4] That may help with a slow Internet connection, too. Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:36, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Cyathea

Hi. I followed the single-genus classification of Braggins & Large (2004) in Tree Ferns. mgiganteus1 (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

How to move a page over a redirect

Hi, I have no opinion (at least, not without doing some research) on whether Isoetopsida should be there or at Selaginellopsida, but moving it by cut-and-paste, as you seem to have done, is not the way to move a page. See Help:Moving a page (search for "Do not move or rename a page by copying/pasting its content" and also see the sections on redirects and such). In this case I think maybe you would need an administrator to perform the move, but that's no big deal; that's what WP:RM is for. Kingdon (talk) 02:45, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted the edit, as your proposal constitutes original research and is supported neither by recent published classifications nor the ICBN. Priority is not applied above the rank of family. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:21, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Modification to scientific classification template information in Diplazium

Hi, you recently changed the information in the genus template for the entry I generated a few months ago for the cliff fern. I understand your intentions in doing so, and see what you have done. However, you don't address the fact that in the article associated with the template I explain specifically why the classification you revised is now considered outdated and I provide an external reference to a scientific journal to verify this. Your revision back to the "old school" classification scheme does not include any explanation (other than the use of the word "various") which, to me, feels a little too brief for a change that changes a fundamental and, as far as I know, contrary-to-conventional-scientific-knowledge fact about this plant.

If I am in the wrong here, please let me know. I love being corrected when I am wrong, and I will admit up front that I am not a professional botanist, merely a "professional amateur". For the moment I will have faith that you completed your revision in full knowledge of the argument that occurs along with my citation but for some reason left it in the article...(?). Can you explain this better for me? I am confused. Thanks. KDS4444^Talk 08:18, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

The most recent and by far the most comprehensive genetic and cladistic study of the ferns indicates clearly that if this genus is placed in the Woodsiaceae, then the families Blechnaceae and Onocleaceae must also be included, as well as all the other athyrioid ferns. I have no objection to this if other people agree.jaknouse (talk) 14:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

The problem at the moment is that you are listing Diplazium in Athyriaceae, but the references provided place the genus in either Dryopteridaceae or Woodsiaceae. In this--and other fern taxonomy--we need, at the least, either a citation of an author who -proposes- the classification you are using (i.e., not merely an author who provides a phylogenetic hypothesis from which the classification you are using can be derived), or to use a classification supported by existing references.Paalexan (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Redirects

Remember redirects are #REDIRECT [[Target page name]]. I had to correct a few you made incorrectly. Thanks. Gigs (talk) 16:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand. That's the formula I always use, and I always wait until it loads to make sure that it reads correctly. I did goof up the one change from Isoetopsida to Selaginellopsida, I have to admit. Is that what you're talking about? jaknouse (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

It looks like these edits prompted Gigs' msg.[5][6][7] Thank you for the edit summaries! Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Cheilanthaceae

Please provide a reference for an authority who has circumscribed the family in this way. The only paper cited on the page places this group as a subfamily of the Pteridaceae. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

A second citation has been added, but neither does this one circumscribe the pteridoid ferns consistently with the recent re-arrangement on wikipedia (e.g., Nayar does not recognize a "Cryptogrammaceae"). As it stands, this re-arrangement appears to violate [No Original Research]. Paalexan (talk) 00:36, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Personal attack warning

Please remove the personal attack against me that you made on your user page and at Talk:Starved_Rock_State_Park#Plum_Island_Bald_Eagle_Refuge with this edit. Such statements violate WP:NPA and WP:AGF and could get you blocked. You might also want to read WP:BRD to see how to more effectively interact with other editors. Thank you. Novaseminary (talk) 01:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, Novaseminary, you are one of these ANONYMOUS editors. I did no illegitimate edits, and I tried to communicate with you, but you have deliberately blocked any feedback. If I could have discussed this with you, I would have done so politely, but you deliberately prevent discussion of your peremptory edits. jaknouse (talk) 21:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Incidentally, the one specific thing that triggered my concern was the edit on Starved Rock State Park, where you removed the reference to the Plum Island preserve. This is an important part of the area's ecosystem, and while at Starved Rock, I found that, talking to other visitors, many of them were there specifically to see the bald eagles that roost at Plum Island. In fact, I saw one in a tree not thirty feet from me. I did not include this kind of hearsay, obviously; I only included a factual reference that was relevant to Starved Rock. Would you remove a reference to Yellowstone National Park from the page on Grand Teton National Park? When there are relevant connections, we should note them -- Wikipedia IS meant to be encyclopedic. jaknouse (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

You put me on you "list" because of one edit I made, which I explained via an edit summary, and even though you agreed with some of the other changes I made in he same edit? Yikes. WP:RELAX. And I have never "blocked contact", nor could I even if I wanted to. You can post to my talk page like anyone else. As for being anonymous, most editors are; that is WP policy. If you don't like it, your problem is not with me, but WP. And others have already mentioned it, but please don't rely on your personal knowledge. Information needs to be sourced. WP:RS. Novaseminary (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Citing sources

You also might benefit from taking a look at WP:INCITE for how to properly cite sources. Adding inline ELs as you have done on several articles lately is not the way sources are cited on WP. Novaseminary (talk) 01:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Riddle State Nature Preserve

The article Riddle State Nature Preserve has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:N. Zero gNews archive or RS gBook hits. Needs some third-party sources to establish notability and searching and talk page comments lead me to believe such sources do not exist.

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Nomination of Margaret Creek for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Creek until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Riddle State Nature Preserve

I added a reference to Riddle State Nature Preserve and removed the prod tag. If other scholarly articles have been published about Hawk Woods or the preserve, please add them as references. You might consider adding your mapping information to Google Maps. Please see http://maps.google.com/help/maps/mapcontent/ Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

A few things-mostly your "Shit list"

You might want to check out WP:CITE, I've noticed a few of you edits don't have any. Here is a page with easy use templates Wikipedia:Citation templates. Also, the "Shit list" on your user page, please remove that post haste. Such lists are strongly discouraged here. Thanks, Heiro 18:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

• I understand. The "shitlist" is because these are people who are hiding their identities while taking illegitimate actions, and I stand by it. jaknouse (talk) 20:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Then I will take this to WP:ANI to ask for other opinions on the matter. Heiro 20:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

And I'll try to find references. However, the thing about Serpent Mound is clearly stated on the Highlands Sanctuary website. I do intensive field work in Ohio and extensive and intensive mapping, and much of what I post in geographical references is from personal knowledge. It's not original research, it is what it is. jaknouse (talk) 20:54, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Informational note: this is to let you know that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Regards, And about the "personal knowledge" thing, that is the definition of WP:OR. {Please find cites to reliable third party sources.Heiro 20:58, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

You will note that the list has been removed from your userpage. Per the discussion at ANI, maintaining the list violates Wikipedia:No personal attacks, summarised as "Comment on content, not the contributor". Should you revert the removal, or seek to return the list in another form or otherwise example those or any other editors in a negative light - other than when participating in the various dispute resolution venues - you will be blocked. Please regard this as an only warning.
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Here's something I'd like an answer to. I stated in the Glouster, Ohio article that the village is entirely within the Sunday Creek watershed. Someone added an "unreferenced" tag to that. That is a simple fact that is obvious from any map. So how do I reference that? jaknouse (talk) 21:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Try a google books search or news search. If true, I would imagine a book, scholarly article, or newspaper clipping on the town or the watershed would mention this. Original research is not ok on WP. Novaseminary (talk) 22:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

My real point is that the prohibition on "original research" can be taken too far. When it violates common sense, it has been taken too far. For instance, I make maps. By many of the standards of Wikipedia, that grossly violates the original research. Does that mean that we can ONLY publish maps that have already appeared in a third-party source? Also fotos: I post fotos that I have taken. This, also, should constitute "original research." Should we only post fotos that have already appeared in third-party sources? Stating that Glouster is entirely within the Sunday Creek watershed is a direct result of my making the map. When we make tables correlating factors on a subject that have not before appeared in precisely such a table, that would also seem to constitute "original research" as per Wikipedia.jaknouse (talk) 22:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:OR goes into some of these issues (e.g., WP:OI). I would read it, then post there on its talk or on article talk, as appropriate, if you are still in doubt. You might also want to read WP:V. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true." Novaseminary (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Trimble Community Forest

I noticed a slight article from WOUB Radio/TV (NPR) mentioning the Forest. I added it to your article, but you may wish to review. Delete it if you wish. It adds little additional information, but seems to confirm some. Tkotc (talk) 08:16, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

There was also a mention made here: www.sundaycreek.org/publications/SCWGSplashSpring09.pdf. And here: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/01/01/state-evicting-longtime-renters-of-land-given-to-create-preserve.html and here (Google cache) http://www.ruralrambler.org/2007_11_01_archive.html. Not sure if these will be of any interest, but since you wrote an article on the area I thought I'd bring it to your attn. Tkotc (talk) 08:41, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Anything helps. Thanks! I'm concerned about an overly-strict application of the "noteworthiness" policy. It's not like Wikipedia electrons are crowding us off the planet, and it is about something real, concrete, observable, and occupying a significant space on the planet surface. Having said that, I can live with deletion of this, if that's what it comes to, but not some other things that are definitely more significant. jaknouse (talk) 16:00, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Photo request

If you get the chance, would you be willing to help illustrate National Register of Historic Places listings in Athens County, Ohio? I've done a lot of work on other Ohio counties, but Wikipedia hadn't yet been started the last time that I was in Athens County. Nyttend (talk) 15:17, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a great project! I'll try to help with this. jaknouse (talk) 15:57, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I've got pics up for most of these, now. Will try to get the rest. jaknouse (talk) 16:51, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

All entries now have a foto posted. jaknouse (talk) 00:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Twenty-one Ohio county lists are now fully illustrated (there's a complete list, which includes fully-illustrated lists from all states), plus the downtown Cincinnati list and a list of churches in the far western part of the state that were added to the National Register together. Nyttend (talk) 01:20, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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Yes, the problem is "I certainly release the image to the public domain, but am not sure how to approach this, since I am not the author of the CONTENT of the photo". According to participants of discussion on the commons image (unfortunately) should be deleted so I nominated it for deletion. And, please use User talk:Bulwersator rather than User:Bulwersator to ask questions. Bulwersator (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I was in a hurry and thought I was on your talk page. It wasn't intentional. jaknouse (talk) 00:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. B (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• To clarify the meaning of this template - nearly a decade ago, you uploaded this image. Another user came behind you and added a GFDL tag to it. But they, of course, cannot license one of your images. Could you, if you wish to provide an appropriate license, go to that image description page and replace the stricken tags and my comment with something like this? {{Self2 |GFDL| cc-by-sa-3.0}} Thanks, --B (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• I added that tag years ago, I'm pretty sure, just not from my user account. In any case, when I posted this image, there was no convenient way to denote copyright privileges. And there still is no convenient way to change a page like this. I just clicked every link on the page, and there's no option for changing the copyright. I shouldn't have to spend an hour researching how to do this. Tell you what. Give me the language to embed, and I'll do it. 132.235.46.216 (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• • Oops. Forgot to log in. The above is my message. jaknouse (talk) 21:46, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
    • Incidentally, the two young girls in the foto are my daughters, and I give my permission for my minor daughters to be portrayed in the image. jaknouse (talk) 21:47, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
      • If you go to this URL - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Whiteoakchampion.jpg&action=edit - and add the following template ...
        
        {{Self2 |GFDL| cc-by-sa-3.0}}
        
        

... all will be well. You can remove {{di-no license|date=8 March 2013}} if you like or I can clean the rest up once you add the template, I can fix the rest. Thanks. --B (talk) 22:06, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Now I see you already gave it to me, and I misunderstood. Since I have to use public computers for Internet access these days, I just haven't been able to keep current on things Wikipedian. jaknouse (talk) 22:09, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --B (talk) 22:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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