Alison

User:Ali-oops/Bar Start a new talk topic.

My user and talk pages attract a lot of vandals - it kinda goes with the job. If you have reverted vandalism here, please understand that while I really appreciate you doing this, I'll probably not be able to reply to you for a whole bunch of reasons. But I do appreciate it!

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Dear Allie

	I told you that sorrow would fade, friend, And you would forget half your pain; That the sweet bird of song would waken ere long, And sing in your bosom again; That hope would creep out of the shadows, And back to its nest in your heart, And gladness would come, and find its old home, And that sorrow at length would depart. I told you that grief seldom killed, friend, Though the heart might seem dead for awhile. But the world is so bright, and full of warm light That 'twould waken at length, in its smile. Ah, friend! was I not a true prophet? There's a sweet happy smile on your face; Your sadness has flown - the snow-drift is gone, And the buttercups bloom in its place.
Ella Wheeler Wilcox

For all your beauty, inside and out, my dear Allie :) Love you, Phaedriel - 02:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

• Oh Sharon! That's beautiful ... I don't know what to say. It's rather apt for today, as it happens. Long story. BTW - you have mail ("boink!"). Love you - Allie Alison ☺

Help please

What does WARNING: template loop detected mean? Thank you,Arnon Chaffin ^{Got a message?} 15:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

• Ah! If you reference another template within your own template that also references yours, everything can get into a closed loop and templates can go trying to include each other forever. There's a circular reference somewhere :) - Alison ☺ 06:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

rv vandalism

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page, it is much appreciated! :) --Endo(Exo) 21:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Now that you're back on (looking at recent changes) could you do a favor and delete this image?--Endo(Exo) 03:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I blocked them, too :) And it looks like Phaedriel got there before me - Alison ☺ 05:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

personal attack

How was that a personal attack? What I said was true. Show me One Night In Hackney's edits where he is removing valid content from pages of people that aren't Irish Republicans. Please try to think before you claim someone is making a personal attack, markham. You warning me of a personal attack was much more of a personal attack than what you claimed was a personal attack. Bobby Sands man 01:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

By your standards, the truth being a personal attack, it is very difficult to not personally attack One Night In Hackney because he won't listen to reason. Bobby Sands man 01:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• You spoke falsehoods about the guy. And you did about me in the past. And, BTW, my name isn't "Markham" - I've no idea who that is. Tell you what - seeing as you're such a Bobby Sands fan and such a proud Nationalist an' all that (me, of course, being a tool of the Crown, a lackey to John Bull and his ilk). Bobby Sands was also a poet and a proud gaelgóir. Is mar sin, b'fhearr liom ár teanga nádúrtha a úsáid anseo nuair a bhéimid ag caint as am seo amach. An é sin ceart leatsa, a chara? Mar atáimid go leir níos compórdach leis ar dteanga náisiúnta a úsáid - nach bhfuil? Tá súil agam go mbeidh tusa ag scríobh chugam as Gaeilge as seo agus táim ag fanacht le do fhreagair! Slán - Alison ☺ 06:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• No matter to whom you address a comment, it is preferred that you use English on English Wikipedia talk pages ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 08:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• Oh yes, Hackney. I know about that one. However, for a proud Nationalist like this guy, he'll be only too happy to speak with me in Irish and not the Language of the Oppressor™ ... right? :-) - Alison ☺ 15:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• There are oppressed people in Chicago?! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• LOL!! - Alison ☺ 23:04, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

The fact that you and One Night In Hackney keep bringing up irrelevant information proves how illogical you are. You both, when posed with a serious question about wikipedia policy, respond with a logical fallacy. Bobby Sands man 20:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

The fact that you go about attacking other editors, posting insults about them speaks volumes in itself, no? And that ... well, you haven't answered my question above - Alison ☺ 23:04, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I also never said your name is markham. Yes, I called you markham, because I have a friend who is also named Alison and you remind me of her and her last name is Markham. I was only calling you Markham as a nickname since you remind me so much of her. Bobby Sands man 18:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Ok - I've seen enough. Almost all your edits have been talk page comments. Almost all of them have been either baseless accusations or juvenile name-calling. I saw your incivil retort to User:Firestar just now. You have now been blocked for repeated and blatant violations of the civility policy as well as disrupting Wikipedia to make a point - Alison ☺ 18:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Farewell

I'm leaving Wikipedia, and you are one of the nice admins I've seen, so just let you know. Regards. Wooyi^{Talk to me?} 04:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• Wooyi - I'm so sorry you're leaving! Thanks for the kind words (maybe I'm too new around here yet) but I'd much rather you stayed. I've always liked your work and this place will be a lot lesser without you. Heading over to your talk page now ... - Alison ☺ 06:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Alison, thanks for the kind words. I decided to reconsider my departure and will decide whether I still have faith on Wikipedia pending some ArbCom cases I participated in (Transnistria, Paranormal, and PalestineRemembered), they are not cases about me, but either initiated by me or I have discussed there. Again, thank you for all the kindness, I'm grateful of your support. Wooyi^{Talk to me?} 23:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• Macushla, Allie, cathain a bhí mé óg, bhí Gaeilge maith agam. Posta mise anois, faoi an cupán tae im Iúil, im Baile Atha Cliath. wink wink! Hey Wooyi, you are only here since May 2006. Wait until you are 4 years here like I am, then you will want to leave. WP is the greatest project that I have ever encountered, and there are a lot of really good and nice people here, and you too. My position on WP is as a POV annihilator. Therefore I have to change my name every month. And sometimes my own fellow Irish Wikipedians sometimes loath me. But that's the price that I have to pay for being honest. Yet, I'm happy, and I never offend anyone. Take a lesson from me, please stay! And Allie, why do you archive so recently, and so soon. Slow down. Problematic! Only 5 days ago?.....Gurabamhlaidhduit 01:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Toby Meltzer

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Go raibh míle maith agat

Thanks for your welcome message (I think), it's one step closer for my eventual plan of world Wikipedia domination mwahahaha, oh, and cheers for doing my front page. I'm not going to go leary and fly into anything yet, but just keep an eye out, we're often in the same areas so just look out for my screw ups please. Cheers again. ^Khukri 16:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Response

... on my Talk page!  :) Joie de Vivre 20:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Dick Warner

Looks like he was a client of the aforementioned Toby Meltzer ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 05:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• LOL!!! Or a certain ex-Tánaiste :) - Alison ☺ 05:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Atif nazir

Can you please fix the mess that I left on the page? It was a simple move, but never knew that Daniel left a message on the redirect . Thanks. --Kzrulzuall ^{Talk• Contribs} 06:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• Hey there, KZ. I'm not seeing a problem over there. Daniel stuck a TW reject over on the redir page after the guy moved accounts & you just moved it over. Looks fine to me ... What would you like me to do? - Alison ☺ 06:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

That's not the user's real account. He put the account as User talk:Syed Atif Nazir, when it's suppose to be User talk:Atif nazir. --Kzrulzuall ^{Talk• Contribs} 06:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Ryulong already fixed it. --Kzrulzuall ^{Talk• Contribs} 06:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

So I see. It needed deletion of the redir to move back. Cool ... :) - Alison ☺ 06:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Hallo

I need help! The stalking and attacks from Pmp alias vandal 71.99.... is continuing, viz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.99.143.151 , esp. this attack in article and this attack against "my article" (He know, that article passed in VoD). --Cinik 06:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• Blocked for a week as a returning wikistalking vandal. If he comes back, let me know. That kind of behaviour and harassment is just unacceptable.

Thanks Allie!

Thanks for your help while I was busy, Allie! :) And even more pleased about the happy ending ;) I got your mail, girl - and you have this gift to make me both happy and speechless. I'll reply to you in a matter of hours - namely, when your adoptive niece right here allows me to! Wait for the boink! ;) Love you A. Phaedriel - 23:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

About 202.83.173.122

The user with IP 202.83.173.122 has struck again at the Special Service Group (SSG) article reintroducing the same copyvios just hours after he served his 24-hour ban imposed by you. I have reverted it (again!) but I suspect he will continue to do this and request you to therefore either a) ban him for a longer duration or b)semi-protect the page to stop him. I'm approaching you because you are familiar with this issue. Thanks. --Idleguy 02:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Need your help Allie

Allie, I have major issue here that is seriously worrying and stressing me. In fact, I'm kinda shaken. I desperately need your guidance. I'll be around for several hours, so please, ping me when you have the time, girl. Love you, Phaedriel - 05:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Ping - talk to me!! If you need, email me for my phone number - Alison ☺ 05:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Thank you Allie, mail sent. Love, Phaedriel - 05:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Got it. Reading now ... - Alison ☺ 05:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
      • Boink! You've got mail ... ;) - Alison ☺ 06:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
        • More mail, tho you probably already know what it's about, as you probably put 2 and 2 together quicker than me :) – Riana ⁂ 13:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
          • mhm - yep! - Alison ☺ 13:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

5-HT3...

Quick belated thanks for the congratulations; they kind of got lost in the history :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• No problem. You so deserved it :) - Alison ☺ 23:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Mr Oompapa back?

I've just realised when you blocked User talk:Domgang that he was a sockpuppet of Mr Oomapa, he came and accused me of being a sockpuppet of him? - huh? Anyway thanks for blocking him, I thought all this had calmed down. — The Sunshine Man (a.k.a Tellyaddict) 16:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

reply to talk page message

You can ask Wiki alf or Bubba Hotep or JoanneB or Gwernol or Guinnog if a dedicated 156.34 IP editor will ever get an account...again :) . Their reply would be interesting. I quit my username long ago (after 20000 edits) to edit as an anon. I struggle daily to maintain "the integrity of anonymous contribution". I would certainly use the article talk page if I felt that the fanboy would use it as well. But since they seem to have zero grasp of any Wikipedia editing policy... I doubt very much they are open to discussion. My AGF is thin on most days. For that particular editor... it = 0 . :) . I hope the page gets protected. but I also hope someone takes 2 secods to clean up the last couple of schoolboy book report edits. The article is bad enough as it is. Ahoy! 156.34.142.110 18:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Toby Meltzer

Seeking assistance. One editor is including multiple extraordinary claims about Meltzer's career that do not have multiple verifiable sources.

"Exceptional claims should be supported by multiple reliable sources, especially regarding scientific or medical topics, historical events, politically charged issues, and biographies of living people."

Would you take a look in at Talk:Toby Meltzer? Thank you! Joie de Vivre 19:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Commented. Looks like the other folks at WP:LGBT are getting involved. - Alison ☺ 23:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.

WikiThanks

I just wanted to say that it's been more than two months since Ryan and I nominated you for adminship, and that since then, you've been doing great work as an administrator. Thank you. :) Acalamari 23:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• Oh my goodness!! Has it been that long already? Wow ... And thank you, by the way, for the co-nom! One of these days, I'll get back to doing some article editing. It's been a while :) - Alison ☺ 23:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, more than two months. :) I was surprised it's been that long as well. I'm also impressed with the amount of editing you've done as well since then: you were at 7000 then, and in the 14000s now, which means in the course of two months your edits have more than doubled. Brilliant work. Acalamari 23:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Ooops! I'm not sure if this is entirely a Good Thing, somehow :) - Alison ☺ 23:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
• Allie, thanks for reverting vandalism again! To me actually, it was complimentary vandalism because he said I looked "hot". But he said I was hooker, too, making me laugh! :) --Endo(Exo) 01:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Move protected

Hi Alison...this Divestment (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) character (a likely sock of one or another) that once again moved the article Allegations of state terrorism by the United States back to State terrorism by the United States is virtually a page move vandal at this point. Myself and Gurch went around and cleaned up a lot of double redirects after his last unilateral move and now we are faced with the same problem again since the article has been moved. I recognize that we'll need to ask to have the page moved at requested moves.--MONGO 19:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

• Ugh! What a mess. And yes, they're obviously some sock or another. Gurch originally asked for move prot & I took a peek when I was patrolling WP:RPP and saw it was being moved about. Put the brakes on but, as is customary, got the The Wrong Version :) You guys could maybe bring it to ANI and have someone review the move? - Alison ☺ 20:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

  Oh, I'm not blaming you at all...just venting...Gurch went and once again fixed the redirects to point back to the sock's change of title...so until we get a consensus to do this move, this will be fine for now. Best wishes.--MONGO 20:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

  Sorry about all that, though. I should have really looked a whole lot closer - Alison ☺ 20:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

  Nah...if anything, I should have simply listed it at requested moves and had it taken care of that way...happy editing.--MONGO 20:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

thing is the article dont actually speak of accusations, it speaks of things that the USA actually did. by thier own definition of terrorism, they are guilty, so why say allegations when these allegations are definitive?Charred Feathers 21:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

please warn Fire Star

A while back when I was on an IP, you warned me for removing content from my talk page. You also restored content removed that I left on someone else's talk page. The user removed it because it was a personal attack. Fire Star is guilty of the same thing and I advise you warn him. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fire_Star&diff=132003957&oldid=132003851 Bobby Sands man 23:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

• IP addresses are different. It's not your account as they're shared, by their very nature. Furthermore, blatant personal attacks can be removed, especially ones of that nature. I note that your incivil tone has also extended to User:Fire Star and it's clear at this stage that you're not here to improve the encyclopedia. - Alison ☺ 23:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

My tone? How do you know my tone? My tone is very civil. If you think otherwise, then you are mistaken. Bobby Sands man 23:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I called someone a retarded kid on a user talk page and you didn't allow that to be removed. You don't think that was a blantant personal attack? You think my tone is uncivil when it's not, and you think "retarded kid" is not a blantant personal attack. How did someone with no common sense like you become an admin? (go ahead and block me, I'm done.). Bobby Sands man 00:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Not uncivil at all

I was not uncivil at all with Fire Star. I kindly pointed out to him that what he was warning me for was just for pointing out a logical fallacy, this is not in violation of wikipedia rules. I asked him to apologize for the mistaken warning he gave.

The reality of it is you were just looking for a reason to block me and found a very bad one. I'm sure you could have waited a little longer and I would have done something that actually warranted a warning, but this did not. You simply did this in response to my explanation of why I called you markham. Alison, I know how you think, don't try to cover anything up and expect me not to catch it, it makes you look foolish. You are like a little child and I am your mother, I know what you are doing and what you are thinking. You can't sneak anything past me. Bobby Sands man 23:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

• Tell you what. Time to bring this matter to WP:ANI, because you're just being a nuisance now - Alison ☺ 00:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I've just seconded that. --Fire Star 火星 00:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
    • No problem. -- John Reaves (talk) 07:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Dia duit!

Dia duit! Mór là inniu! Go raibh tú ábalta vóta a chaitheamh i Meiriceá. Sláinte! gaillimh^{Conas tá tú?} 03:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• Ah, tá brón orm, a Ghaillimh ach ní mbeidh mar ní féidir liom vótáil as Meirceá fós :( Bummer, nach ea? Tá suil agam go mbeidh tú féin ag vótáil? Cur an an fear seo amach ar a cluas ... pleeeeese :) - Alison ☺ 05:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Haha, an donas ná beag é ná ár sean-Tánaiste. Tá sé rud beag follasach cé mé vóta i bhfabhar. Mo céad chuaigh sé a Ann Maire Carroll gaillimh^{Conas tá tú?} 10:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:RPP

Silly vandals indeed. Do you get a text message every single time a person requests page protection? Wow that was fast. (and for spotting my template error ) Thanks, MrMacMan ^Talk 05:02, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• Way ahead of ya :) - Alison ☺ 05:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Allie

Hi Alison or should I call you Allie? Which do you prefer? What happened to your picture on your userpage? King Lopez ^Contribs 10:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• I don't mind which you use! My friends off-wiki call me Allie. Userpic is gone because it became a focus for trolls, is all - Alison ☺ 13:59, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you'll recognise this one

Looks pretty cut and dried, thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

 Done - blocked - Alison ☺ 13:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 14:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Do you want to take a look at the accounts in this checkuser please? Thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Commented. Second one is almost certainly a sock. Last one .... possibly not. We'll see - Alison ☺ 22:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Well if you look at the three pages the first one created. Christine Vladimiroff has been edited twice since by RMS as an IP, Marjorie Tuite has been edoted twice since by RMS as an IP and the latest account, and there's been no edits since to the other one. The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime, especially RMS. That enough quacking for you? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

OMG! That 216.xx anon is definitely RMS. [1] - no question. Can you mention this evidence in the checkuser, please, because it wasn't readily self-evident to me? I see it now all right ... - Alison ☺ 23:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I did mention the anon IP edits (well, one of them as I hadn't done that much digging at that point), end of the second line of my post in the checkuser. From my experience "possible" means same geographic area or similar IP, and knowing RMS's access to different computers I'm not overly surprised by that. Enough evidence to block both accounts and delete some pages now then? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Is that checkuser closed, or are you awaiting further comment? I'm satisfied here myself - Alison ☺ 23:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I was waiting for clarification, but after the subsequent digging I know what the answer will be anyway. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

First one is now indef sockblocked. I'm okay with that one. I'm 90% sure of the latter one, but let's give checkuser another short while. - Alison ☺ 23:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Just asked on VOA's talk page for clarification, in case he's unaware. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool! - Alison ☺ 00:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Clarification is in - both unsurprisingly. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 08:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Blocked, so - Alison ☺ 08:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Support for a friend of mine

Please give K. Lastochka a word or two of encouragement as she is going thru a hard time with a WikiBully right about now. Thank you. —  $PЯINGrαgђ  17:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• Of course! :) - Alison ☺ 18:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Fvasconcellos RFA

Hey Alison, hope all's well, I've added my nom to User:Samir/Fvasconcellos RFA, thanks very much for adding the template. Please add a co-nom whenever you get a chance, and feel free to fiddle with my nom however you see fit. Cheers -- Samir 17:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• Will do. I'm crazy-busy right now, so it may take a little while. Have to do some research for it, too - Alison ☺ 18:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
  • No probs, whenever you have time. Take care :) -- Samir 18:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/EastGermanAllStar

Thanks for closing this early, I think it was for the best. --Guinnog 18:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Good call! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 18:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

(ec) I wouldn't normally do that, but this RfA was starting to spin out of control & was quite obviously there to disrupt. - Alison ☺ 18:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Can you help me?

Can you delete my talk page history because I just notice on my talk page history the 1 with a edit summary is it called,'password' and the user name mool wrote it on my talk page and there should be a anothor 1 But I forgot,Thank you!Arnon Chaffin ^{Got a message?} 20:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry Can I restate that, I mean not my whole talk, I didn't wanted my whole talk page but just the history of it(know you like you did to Ebilshroom) sorry if I cause any problems for you,Thank you-Arnon Chaffin ^{Got a message?} 20:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

 Done - Eight comments from User:Mools deleted. Took ages as it's manual work - Alison ☺ 20:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh sorry I didn't know how hard it was but anyway again thanks so much!Have a nice dayArnon Chaffin ^{Got a message?} 20:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Amiri Baraka - protection

Hi Alison, just noticed that protection for this page was declined - for which there might be good reasons. My reason for this request was: There has been much vandalism on this page & I was only able to restore the page because I had an earlier version of this page stored locally (I do not understand, why the history of this page only goes back to Dec. 2006 - what happened?). Anyway: In between a number of people has frequently - though not on a daily basis - cut out all kinds of generally estabilsihed facts about A.B. and added loads of opinionated, contemporary hear-say materials. As Baraka is a certainly controversial figure, this is not surprising. I wouldn't have submitted my request if there'd been a working page history, i.e. the possibilty to revert. --Albrecht Conz 23:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• I declined protection because there's simply not enough activity to warrant it. Honestly - there isn't. However, since you posted this, I took a look and things are actually worse than that. The entire article was deleted on December 10, 2006 because it was a blatant copyright violation of this page. Unfortunately, your restored version also contains copyright violations as I've just traced large chunks of the article to this page. I'm going to try to repair the damage and salvage what I can. Can you also take a look and try to sort out the problem? Thanks - Alison ☺ 23:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

  Hi Alison. As far as I can see the copyright violation is the other way round, i.e, someone copied information from a previous version of this article (which I wrote myself quite some time ago). Unfortunatly - and I do not understand why - the history of this article only goes back to Dec. 2006, i.e. I used a version of my text I'd saved locally in order to do the revert. There was no copy and paste from me involved. I wrote the article on A.B. originally in German - from original sources (I do have his complete works and plenty of material on him) - and then translated much of that into English. Unfortunately I do not have the time to follow English wikipedia regularly - and so I didn't hear anything about the deletion (and nobody bothered to contact me via my user page at the time - why???). Anyway - if there is a copyright issue it is the other way round. --Albrecht Conz 23:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

  It was deleted in December 2006, as stated above, for copyright violation. If you say the original sources were yours, translated from the German, then maybe mention this on the talk page and point to the German wiki version. We can't really take chances on copyright stuff. - Alison ☺ 23:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

  Well, I've mentioned it on the talk page. And the link to the German version is readily available on the article page anyway ... anyone who can read German may compare the versions and the dates. I've only saved the article on my computer at the time because I wrote it. Once the older versions in the history have been deleted - as they have - it is of course rather difficult to prove who copied what. Still I do not understand why this could have been deleted in the first place without anyone notifying me? What is going on? I mean, why should I write something only to have it deleted because somebody copied it and then somebody else came up with a claim that it was actually copied the other way round - and no way to prove it one way or the other ... because somebody deleted the history without notifiying me, the author. - What is going on??? - I do not have the time to deal with such rubbish. You seem to be here quite frequently. Please move this matter to the relevant meta discussion for resolution. --Albrecht Conz 00:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

(indent) Ok - calm down for a second. Firstly, as an admin, I can see all deleted revisions so they're not entirely gone. I've no idea as to what happened last December other than by looking in the deletion logs. I've no interest nor experience in the subject matter here - I'm just some admin doing my job, is all, and the only reason I'm involved here at all is because I declined semi-protection; a decision I still stand by, needless to say. Here's the deletion record;

02:18, 10 December 2006 Can't sleep, clown will eat me (talk · contribs) deleted "Amiri Baraka" (speedy G12, copied from http://www.newton.mec.edu/bigelow/classroom/yerardi/blackhistory04/08blackhist04gh1/08blackhist04gh1index.htm) (Restore)

It was edited by User:Yawnni on the 9th of December, which caused the article to be speedied. Check out User_talk:Yawnni for the full details of the mess. Back in December 22nd, User:America jones began scratch-writing it again.

I can understand your annoyance here but you should realise that it's not your article and .. well .. these things do happen. Under the circumstances, the admin above had to delete it as copyright violations (even potential ones) are a serious problem - possibly even legal. If you like, there's a copyright review board here that can look into the matter for you, see Wikipedia:Copyright_problems

- Alison ☺ 00:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

This barnstar is for Alison for fixing vandalism that was done to my user page. It took you only 10 seconds to fix but that was really kind. Thanks ! -- Penubag  00:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Oh - thank you!! Woo! :) - Alison ☺ 03:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • No, Thank you! =-)

Wiktionary is my source

I appreciate the communication re British spelling on Ian Paisley - I agree totally with the need for British spellings on Ian Paisley but can't find any spelling other than legalization - as seen on Wiktionary, and Wikipedia itself. If people are convinced that legalisation is the British spelling then I have to assume that Wiktionary hasn't got around to listing it yet. Brenont 03:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• May be indeed. As a native Hiberno-English speaker, I have to endorse the spelling, however. Living, as I am, in the US since last year, I'm painfully aware of the intercultural lingustic differences. Goog reports almost 1 million for British English spelling [2] and 3.7 million for US English [3] which is about right. As a software developer, I have to watch this one all the time :) Thanks again - Alison ☺ 03:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Page protections

Hi there. I would urge that proper protection templates to be added to the pages which you have recently placed under full protection, unless there is a certain reason for not showing them. The Spanish page has nothing at all, while the Albert Einstein page only has the semi-protection image. Esn 04:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Oh, I didn't protect those! User:Luigi30 did Spanish and Albert Einstein. The latter has the small prot. icon already. I'll add one to the Spanish article now - Alison ☺ 04:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

About my recent blocking

Don't worry about me anymore. I believe I've lost most of my faith in editting pages anyway. I will try to discuss if I ever decide to do something serious again. Mostly what I like to do is help out with miniscule things such as bad grammar. --74.194.118.12 15:54, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Well, you were reported to AIV for vandalism. Have you thought about maybe getting an account? - Alison ☺ 15:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
• I don't really care what has happened, other than I was considered "unhelpful", and "unconstructive". That's disheartening enough for me. --74.194.118.12 16:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
• That sounds a bit rude, but I really don't want to mess with editting Wikipedia anymore. I just don't want to get blocked again, which kind of messes with my ego. --74.194.118.12 16:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

  Well, don't let it get you down. Anyone can make a mistake. Unfortunately (and I'm not speaking about myself here), many editors view anon accounts with suspicion, which puts you at an immediate disadvantage as people don't assume good faith where they should. I reviewed your edits before and after the block and felt that the person reporting had somewhat overreacted. Suggest you get an account tho' (if only for your ego :-) ) and if you need any help with anything, just give me a shout. You've been doing fine up until now so don't give up - Alison ☺ 16:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Yeah, I've helped clean up the pages concerning Midna and Wolf Link before. When they were their own pages, I was rather proud of my work. I'm especially good around video games, and I can write clean, summarized descriptions of characters decently because of my experience on Furcadia. I was doing the same with Darkspine Sonic. You are free to delete this discussion if I ever decide to create my own account soon enough, as this IP address is used by myself and my brother. --74.194.118.12 16:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
• You may delete this section now. I will continue minuscule revisions on my own account. --74.194.118.12 17:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Improper Protection

[[4]] is an improper protection.

The page was named following Warhammer WikiProject guidelines. The page is part of the Warhammer 40,000 pages and needs to be titled as such. Graphic Novels is a proper noun/title given by Warhammer 40,000 about those books. Furthermore, the page is not a list, but a details far more. Furthermore, the user moving the page, user:Someguy0830, is currently WP:STALKING me. He followed me from different pages relating to BLP issues to the Policy Board and even an admin's page. Now he has followed me here, moving the page solely to disrupt the Wikiproject in order to cause me emotional harm. SanchiTachi 17:08, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Firstly, the article is not "improperly protected". It was requested by the above user at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection where I reviewed it and determined it to be necessary. You are move-warring on that page and you are doing so unilaterally and without consensus. The talk page clearly shows this. As I said, there's nothing more time-wasting than a move-war. If you want to have the article changed to something else, discuss it first and state your case. You need to assume a little good faith on behalf of the user above, and their motives. I'm sorry that this has caused you emotional harm, but the other editor does have a point here. Have you tried discussing the matter with the other editor? - Alison ☺ 17:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Improperly protected because you protected the wrong one. I have a legitimate right to claim something was improperly protected. Furthermore, I do not want to fight with you. I made that page in order to blow off steam and ignore people, but the same people decided to come there and start problems. If you cannot understand that situation, then I do not know how you ever can. If you cannot understand how your blocking at the wrong page caused even more problems and only encouraged the person who has been harassing me for two weeks, then I don't know what you can actually do to contribute to fixing this situation. I don't need a consensus to move a page back to what it was titled if there was no consensus to move it in the first place. Furthermore, I had a consensus based on the establish guidelines of the wikiproject. To move the page was blatant moving vandalism, as the move was not asked for first, nor was consensus ever attempted to be established. The user has been around long enough to know better and it is not some "mistake," especially after the revert. SanchiTachi 05:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I can tell you this much; my move protect was absolutely the right thing to do. We don't protect the version you or anyone else wants; we just apply the brakes. Please read m:The Wrong Version to understand more. As stated on AIV, the entire active admin community is looking into your case and editor after editor are coming in to report. It's not looking good. You've burnt through a phenomenal amount of goodwill today; on this page, on ANI, on WP:RPP and at the Village Pump. When I'm in a situation like this and everyone is trying to tell me something & I disagree, I usually pull back, think a little and ask the question; "Maybe I'm wrong here?" Well? - Alison ☺ 05:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Duck

Quack quack. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

User(s) blocked. - *sigh* - Alison ☺ 21:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. He should just call his next account Captain Obvious. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I want... your job... or... do I?

Right. Off to Cuba for two weeks so I'll be close but presumably not close enough for a preview copy of the cat? Don't work too hard (in real life) and keep this place under control.... G'luck! The Rambling Man 22:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Help with personal attacks

I don't usually go directly to an administrator, but you've helped me out before, so I thought I might bring this to you. There's a guy, User:Etom, who has been using Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton as a sort of personal screed blog for him to spout his political opinions. He was warned several times, by myself and by adminsitrator User:The Rambling Man to stop, and it descended into personal attacks. He was warned further to stop his personal attacks, and after those warnings, this is what he did:

• This response on his talk page
• This message at Hillary Clinton talkpage
• This edit where he blanks the article history at Hillary Clinton
• Also check out his contribs list. There's a good edit or two, but its mostly screed like the above.

I left a note at The Rambling Man's talk page, since he had threatened with a block before, but it looks like he is on a wikibreak and won't be responding soon. I came here because you have always been a thoughtful and fair admin, and I knew that you would know how to deal with this. If you could please take care of this as you see fit, I would be most appreciative.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 00:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I gave him a warning, which would probably make him stop with the attacks. If he does it again, ask Alison, or go to AIV, and he'll be blocked.. --Kzrulzuall ^{Talk• Contribs} 00:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Good call, KZ! I'm away here now but will take a more in-depth look later on. Frankly, the guy looks like he should already be blocked for incivility and personal attacks ... - Alison ☺ 01:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to the both of you for helping with this. If you think that another warning is needed, that's cool, but I will keep you appraised if his behavior doesn't change. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 01:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Feel better now?

Oh, I love it when an Admin gets firm! Sometimes it feels as good to read something like that as it probably felt to write it. Thanks for "telling it like it is", and bringing a good laugh out of that frustrating morass at the same time. Well, I laughed anyway : ) Doc Tropics 05:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• I feel bad about it because I never speak like that on here - ask anyone. I'm about burnt out with this guy & to be honest, it looks like everyone else is, too. This will be headline news tomorrow around here; "Look! Alison finally cracked and freaked out with someone" :) - Alison ☺ 05:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

your not a robot, we cant expect you to stay programmed sunny and pleasnt, if someone irks you you have every right to lash out , though your tung lashing seems quite , shall we say , small.... i really dont see how anyone can accuse you of mis stepping there, if that helps.Charred Feathers 05:48, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• Well, thanks for the support, CF but I should really know better, I guess :-/ I'm not exactly known for my "lashing out". Ah well .... - Alison ☺ 05:55, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

(ec x2) LOL, I'll be sure to check the next issue of the Signpost for mention of you. Don't flog yourself for it, though, you stayed well within bounds under the circumstances. Seriously, anyone who's followed that thread and some of the diffs would be feeling the same way, and none of them would blame you a bit. I don't think we need a crystal ball to see where this is going...Doc Tropics 05:58, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Doc. I'll send you an autographed copy of Signpost if you ask nicely :-) It looks like it's going to escalate though, just like everything else this guy seems to touch; he's now filed a complaint on ANI. Pass the rouge, please :/ - Alison ☺ 06:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

You've actually annoyed him enough for him to drop his obsession with me and turn to you: WP:ANI#Alison's Personal Attacks. I swear, with all the negative reactions he's gotten, accusing you of personal attacks in the middle takes balls. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

methinks it takes a definite lack thereof, ( not to mention the lack of the commonly misnamed common sense/// i mean allsion here has been fair and very non-heavy handed in all the dealings i have seen ( i checked her contribs!) so really... all i have to say to the rather harassing other is " do you have a hobby?" and to allison, lookie! lots of support for you, so please cheer up!Charred Feathers 06:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• OK, I just lost my sense of humor. That filing was total BS and I reverted it. You absolutely don't have to put up with that kind of crap, and I'll be happy to see to it for you. Doc Tropics 06:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, it was removed half way through my response. The short version of my response: Good job Alison and get a grip SanchiTachi. That entire post was just ridiculous. Well done and keep up the good work. - auburnpilot talk 06:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, both of you. I'm chilling out here a bit and keeping away from ANI for a while. Bedtime here :) - Alison ☺ 06:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

My Rfa

Hello, Alison. Thank you so much for your warm support and your kind comment on my recent Rfa, I passed! I am now thrilled to pieces, and I hope to live up to your expectations. Please let me know if I ever mess up :) Yours faithfully, PeaceNT 05:54, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

thoughts?

Thoughts on my proposal under the Sanchi Tachi AN/I? (It's entitled "a very simple way to deal with this" or something like that). I'm pretty sure this can work. I've seen it done on an article, Neuro-linguistic programming by an ArbCom ruling. Woohookitty, Katefan0, a couple of others. I was mediating it at the time, and they came in and mentored, with enforcement....it worked REAL well. I think this can be done with SanchiTachi similarly, especially since he's already somewhat familiar with me, and he accepts my judgement when I tell him I think he is in the wrong or needs to stop. Think it's a good idea? I think he's a potentially good editor. ⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 06:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• I'm sure he is, SJ, but I'm backing down here for the night. I'm still actually doing day-job work at home & need to call it a night. I lost my cool with the guy earlier & can't believe that happened. I accept your comments about him because I respect you a lot as an admin. Personally, I hope you can get through to him & I'll do what I can to help. I was going to file an RfC but won't now - Alison ☺ 06:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • He left a message on my talk page, he seems more calmed down. You're not the type to lose your cool. Go play video games :)....maybe not Warhammer though :) ⇒ SWATJester ^{Denny Crane.} 06:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
    • LOL!! Terrible :) Hey, if you're talking to the guy, can you kinda impress upon him that I'm not out to get him or anything. Calling me a "bad admin" making "wrong decisions" is a new-found button-press for me, it seems, and he pressed that hard. - Alison ☺ 06:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

<-- mental note... no puhing allisons "activate evil mode" buttons either... tee heeCharred Feathers 06:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC) -->

• It feels good to let loose once in a while... Don't be upset about it, he'll get over it, and I am sure it won't happen again. Go to sleep and in the morning, things will be back to normal. Remember that anyone who calls you a bad admin needs medication... --Kzrulzuall ^{Talk• Contribs} 06:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		In recognition of your looking out for the little guy, specifically me. Limin8tor 06:20, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear Allie

They may write you down in history With their bitter, twisted lies, They may trod you in the very dirt But still, like dust, you'll rise. Did they want to see you broken? Bowed head and lowered eyes? Shoulders falling down like teardrops Weakened by your soulful cries? But... they may shoot you with their words, They may cut you with their eyes, They may kill you with their hatefulness, And still, like air... you will rise! Maya Angelou My wonderful Allie, I know I speak for us all when I say, you are one of our best. Never let a few ones who can't put aside their personal issues from their Wikipedia self get you down - you are too good and valuable to us. We love you, Allie girl! :) Phaedriel 17:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Your daily RMS update

See here. As you're probably aware by the number of edits of his I've reverted and pages seen deleted, I have no opinion on the merits of any of his edits, sadly I'm sure that debacle will be used against me at some point..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

On a vaguely related matter, if I didn't find it so hilarious I'd fix the slight problem that this edit has caused. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 11:49, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

My user page

Thanks for your help in the use of the template. Could you point out the specific part of WP:USER that forbids what I had on my user page, and which justified User:Bishonen's blocking of the page?

To clarify, this was the link which apparently caused User:Bishonens' concern: "crazy people". Please tell me whether and in what way this offends the policy at WP:USER.

In particular, I read "Removal of inappropriate content", and I don't see a community concensus that I should remove "crazy people". The only person who has expressed any objection to it is User:Bishonen. Even the user concerned, User:Certified.Gangsta, has said nothing to me about it.

And what about "After you've been here for a while, and written lots of great articles, the community may be more inclined to let you get away with it"? I mean, User:Certified.Gangsta was allowed to get away with the UI spoofing banner on his user page after repeated complaints by lots of people. So is my edit count or editing credentials somehow worse than User:Certified.Gangsta?

I'm finding this inconsistent treatment a bit hard to swallow, especially when it seems that what causes the difference is that User:Certified.Gangsta has User:Bishonen as his friend and I don't. --Sumple (Talk) 11:45, 27 May 2007 (UTC)