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MID 039 - CID 1846 - FMI 09: Pantalla Anterior

This document provides troubleshooting steps for the diagnostic code MID 039 - CID 1846 - FMI 09 related to communication issues between the machine ECM and a control valve ECM on a TH560B telehandler. The steps include verifying software versions, inspecting and testing harness connections, checking termination resistors, verifying address lines, checking input voltage to the valve ECM, and measuring battery voltage to the machine ECM. The goal is to isolate whether the issue is with the harness, termination resistors, valve ECM, or machine ECM.

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MID 039 - CID 1846 - FMI 09: Pantalla Anterior

This document provides troubleshooting steps for the diagnostic code MID 039 - CID 1846 - FMI 09 related to communication issues between the machine ECM and a control valve ECM on a TH560B telehandler. The steps include verifying software versions, inspecting and testing harness connections, checking termination resistors, verifying address lines, checking input voltage to the valve ECM, and measuring battery voltage to the machine ECM. The goal is to isolate whether the issue is with the harness, termination resistors, valve ECM, or machine ECM.

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Pantalla anterior
Bienvenido: p210mcrb
Producto: TELEHANDLER
Mode lo: TH560B TELEHANDLER SLG01000
C onfiguración: TH560B TELEHANDLER SLG00001-UP (MAC HINE)
PO W ER ED BY 3054 Engine

Localización y Solución de Problemas


TH220B, TH330B, TH340B, TH350B, TH355B, TH360B, TH460B, TH560B and TH580B Telehandlers
Número de medio -RENR5195-06 Fecha de publicación -01/10/2009 Fecha de actualización -20/10/2009

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MID 039 - CID 1846 - FMI 09


SMCS - 5051-038

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLB1-1499

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLD1-1399

Número de pieza -
S/N - JRK1-UP

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLF1-2099

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLG1-1299

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLA1-849

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLE1-4499

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLC1-849

Número de pieza -
S/N - SLH1-899

Conditions Which Generate This Code:

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Illustration 1 g00951552
Schematic of the Control Valve (Programmable Hydraulic System)

This diagnostic code is recorded when the ECM cannot receive data off the CAN data link from the control valve
for module 2. The ECM expects to receive information from the CAN data link at a specific rate.

Possible causes of this diagnostic code are listed:

The first valve electronic control unplugged during the last power cycle.

The termination resistor on the CAN data link is disconnected.

The harness is disconnected or the harness has failed.

The valve electronic control has failed.

The machine ECM has failed. This is unlikely.

System Response:

The PHS will be unable to communicate to the machine ECM.

Test Step 1. VERIFY SOFTWARE VERSION

Note: From SIS or the latest release of the CD for SIS check and record the latest software version for the machine
electronic controls.

A. Verify the machine ECM has the latest software version loaded.

B. Verify that the valve ECM's have the latest software loaded.

Expected Result:

All of the software is up to date.

Results:

OK - All of the software is up to date. Proceed to Test Step 2.

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NOT OK - There is a more recent software release available.

Repair: Flash all controls with the latest software release. Refer to Testing and Adjusting, "Electronic Control
Module (ECM) - Flash Program".

Stop.

Test Step 2. TEST THE HARNESS.

A. Turn the disconnect switch to the OFF position.

B. Inspect all harness connections that are related to the CAN data link. Make sure that the connectors are clean
and tight.

C. Check the connectors for proper mating. Ensure that all the seals are present and in place.

D. Check the harness for signs of damage or abrasion.

E. Check the wires at the connector. Ensure that the wires are secured tightly into the connector. Take care not
to pull the wire out of the connector.

F. Check the exposed wires at the connectors for nicks or signs of abrasion.

G. Check for moisture inside the connector.

H. Check the connectors for dirty contacts or corroded contacts.

I. Check each pin and each socket of the machine harness connectors. Ensure that the contacts are properly
installed. The contacts should mate correctly when the two pieces of the connector are placed together.

J. Disconnect the harnesses from the machine ECM and module 2. Measure the resistance from the following
contacts that are provided in table 2.

Table 1
Resistance Measurements

Measurement Module 2 Contacts Machine ECM Contacts Expected Results in Ohms

A Contact 3 J2-67 0 to 5 ohms

B Contact 3 J2-68 54 to 66 ohms

C Contact 6 J2-68 0 to 5 ohms

D Contact 6 J2-67 54 to 66 ohms

E Contact 4 J1-69 0 to 5 ohms

F Contact 5 Machine Ground 0 to 5 ohms

K. Check that no continuity exist between any two sockets for the pilot module connector except between
contact 3 and contact 6.

Expected Result:

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The resistance values agree with table 2 and the continuity is correct for the pilot module connector.

Results:

OK - The resistance values agree with the table and the continuity is correct for the pilot module connector.
Proceed to Test Step 4.

NOT OK - Any of the measurements A, C, E or F does not agree with the table.

Repair: Repair the machine harness or replace the machine harness.

Stop.

NOT OK - Any of the measurements B or D does not agree with the table. Proceed to Test Step3.

Test Step 3. CHECK THE TERMINATION RESISTOR.

A. De-energize the system.

B. Disconnect the 3-pin connector from both of the termination resistors.

C. Measure the resistance across contact A (wire Y787-WH) and contact B (wire Y788-GY) for both resistors.
Note the resistance.

Expected Result:

The resistances measured are 120 ± 12 ohms.

Results:

YES - The resistances measured are 120 ± 12 ohms. Reconnect the resistors. Proceed to Test Step 4.

NO - One or both resistances measured is NOT 120 ± 12 ohms.

Repair: Replace the termination resistor(s) that did not measure 120 ± 12 ohms.

Stop.

Test Step 4. CHECK THE ADDRESS LINES

A. Connect all harness connectors to valve ECMs and main ECM.

B. Turn the key to ON position, but do not start engine.

C. Using a digital multimeter, read the frequency and magnitude of the voltage change between module 2 contact
7 and module 2 contact 5.

Expected Result:

The frequency is approximately 1 Hz, and voltage alternates between approximately 0 and 10 volts.

Results:

YES - The reading is as expected. Proceed to Test Step 5.

NO - The frequency is 0 Hz, and the voltage is steady.

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Repair: Replace pilot module.

Stop.

Test Step 5. CHECK THE INPUT VOLTAGE AT THE VALVE ECM.

A. Reconnect all connectors except the connector for module 2.

B. Turn the key start switch to the ON position. Do NOT start the machine.

C. Measure the voltage across contact 4 (wire 799-WH) and contact 5 (wire 205-BK).

Expected Result:

The voltage that is measured is approximately 10 DCV.

Results:

YES - The voltage that is measured is approximately 10 DCV. The pilot module is receiving the correct
voltage.

Repair: Replace the pilot module.

Stop.

NO - The voltage that is measured is above 12 DCV. The machine ECM may have failed.

Repair: It is unlikely that the ECM has failed. Exit this procedure and perform this procedure again. If the
cause of the diagnostic code is not found, replace the ECM. See Testing and Adjusting, "Electronic Control
Module (ECM) - Replace".

Stop.

NO - The pilot module is NOT receiving the correct input voltage. The voltage is significantly below 10 DCV.
Proceed to Test Step 6.

Test Step 6. CHECK THE BATTERY VOLTAGE TO THE MACHINE ECM.

A. Reconnect all harness connectors.

B. Turn the key start switch to the ON position, but do NOT start the engine.

C. Use a spoon and measure the battery voltage between J1-47 and machine ground.

D. Measure the key switch voltage between J1-1 and machine ground

Expected Result:

The battery voltage that is measured is approximately 12 DCV and the key switch voltage is approximately 80 to
100% of battery voltage.

Results:

YES - The battery voltage that is measured is approximately 12 DCV and the key switch voltage is
approximately 80 to 100% of battery voltage. The machine ECM may have failed.

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Repair: It is unlikely that the ECM has failed. Exit this procedure and perform this procedure again. If the
cause of the diagnostic code is not found, replace the ECM. See Testing and Adjusting, "Electronic Control
Module (ECM) - Replace".

Stop.

NO - The voltage that is measured is significantly below 12 DCV.

Repair: Check the charging system. See Special Instruction, REHS0354.

Stop.

NO - The battery voltage that is measured is approximately 12 DCV, but the key switch voltage is less than
80% of battery voltage.

Repair: Inspect the harness between the machine ECM and the key switch or replace the key start switch.

Stop.

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