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Rigorous Method for Fire Case

In previous article, I have explained that relieving load for fire case can be calculated as heat
input divided by latent heat of vaporization. (W = Q/Hv). The heat input have been discussed
before, see fire case heat input rate. The latent heat of vaporization is rather difficult to be
determined. During fire, liquid in the vessel will be vaporized, but the amount of vapor formed
is not fixed, because the liquid composition is change overtime. In this article, I will explain you
step by step the rigorous method for fire case

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Let imagine the system consist of a three phase separator below, the fire case calculation procedure is as follow;
1. Determine the inventory volume of isolated system, both for condensate, water, and gas based on actual size
of the vessel and pipe.

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2. Calculate the wetted area.

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3. Perform simulation:
a. Define stream for WATER, CONDENSATE, and GAS. Input composition, pressure, and temperature as
operating condition of the three phase separator.

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b. Adjust mass flow for those streams, to achieve actual volume for each stream in accordance with inventory
volume calculation (1). Mix those streams to be STREAM OPERATING

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c. (a) and (b) is model of the separator at normal operating condition based on actual condition.

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d. Install three phase separator, V-0. The STREAM OPERATING is as inlet stream to the separator. Adjust Q-100
(heat input to vessel) to achieve pressure RELIEVING CONDITION

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(e). The temperature and pressure will increase to initial RELIEVING CONDITION due to fire. (This simulation
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e. Balance the mixing stream (d) to stream RELIEVING CONDITION. Input the pressure of relieving pressure
value (=1.21 x set pressure).

f. (d) and (e) is model of the separator at relieving condition as initial stage which is PSV will start open

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g. Install a three phase separator (V-1). The stream RELIEVING CONDITION (e) is as inlet stream to the
separator.

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h. Heat input due to fire case is calculated by increasing temperature with interval 10 F. Thus, set the temperature
outlet separator (V-1) of 10 F higher than the RELIEVING CONDITION.

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i. The outlet stream is CONDENSATE 2, WATER 2 and VAPOR. The VAPOR will be divided into two streams,
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j. Mix CONDENSATE 2, WATER 2 and VAPOR 2 to be INLET STAGE 2.

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k. Adjust mass flow rate of VAPOR 2 to achieve actual volume flow of INLET STAGE 2 is equal with initial actual
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l. The stream LOAD STAGE 1 is relieving load fire case

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m. The heat input to V-1 in HYSYS simulation is Q-1 BTU/hr, whereas the actual heat input is Q API = 21.000 F A
^0.82 BTU/hr
n. Calculate the required time of increasing temperature at stage 1, that Is (Q-1) / (21.000 F.A ^0.82)
o. Install a three phase separator V-2. The stream INLET STAGE 2 is as inlet stream to the separator.
p. Repeat the procedure from (g) to (n), for stage 2, stage 3, stage 4 ....with temperature is increased by 10F in
every stage. We can stop the procedure if the cumulative time is one hour (its assumed that the fire has been
suppressed during 1 hr, you can use more than 1 hour if you want)
q. Calculate the required area for each stage, (with the relieving load are LOAD SATGE 1, LOAD STAGE 2, LOAD
STAGE 3, )
r. Use the stage requiring the maximum orifice area as basis datasheet of the PSV.

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7 comments:
razunda Sep 26, 2012, 2:06:00 PM
If normal operating pressure is significantly lower than relieving pressure, we may find a result required
time is longer than one hour at stage 1 i.e, 3 or 5 hours. How do we define relieving load then?
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Triyanto SR

Oct 10, 2012, 11:55:00 AM

This simulation is assume that the increasing temperature at 10 F interval is begin at relieving pressure.

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before that, the temperature will increase both due to fire and increasing pressure (from operating
pressure to relieving pressure.)
after that, the relieving pressure is assumed remain constant during increasing temperature (up to 1 hr
the fire is considered has been suppressed)
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Jack Shan Sep 6, 2013, 5:41:00 AM

How do you get isentropic Constant from Hysys
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Anonymous Oct 4, 2013, 3:53:00 AM

Hi Triyanto,
In the above example, i have a query in step d.
The Adjust function is considered for vessel heat input adjustment to vessel inlet stream operating
pressure equal to PSV relieving pressure. But the pressure value at the inlet stream is not converging in
this method.
Please advice.

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Linda Nasfi Nov 5, 2014, 8:28:00 PM
same problem here
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Anonymous Jun 4, 2014, 12:03:00 AM

Hy!
I follow the steps presented above but I got stuck at 3d. Can you give more details?
Thank you!
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Anonymous Jun 26, 2014, 6:03:00 PM

Hi,
Can you provide the simulation file?
Thank you
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