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my story today

Thank you! - I heard pleasant music today - did you know a string quartet with two cellos (and no article yet in English? - I nominated Soňa Červená for GA just to give her a bit more exposure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

My story today is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Transgender history in Finland

On 28 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Transgender history in Finland, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that records of transgender people in Finland stretch back to the 19th century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Transgender history in Finland. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Transgender history in Finland), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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I'm disappointed

not by the fact that there are transphobes on Wikipedia. But by how many are willing to at least partially excuse transphobia because they self-admittedly have a good relationship with the person in question, or because the editor has been around (being transphobic) for a long time. I also disappointed by how many people see trans people as a topic area, that think it is okay to be transphobic as long as you do it under a topic which is not about trans people. I am equally disappointed that there are respected editors here who believe that being transphobic and being against transphobia are equivalent.

I placed a wikibreak template on my user page hoping to take a step away and let things fold out and hopefully let myself heal. Then I cleaned up some promotion from an article. Just now I reverted someone for using unreliable sources. I am not taking a wikibreak, but I continue to claim so. The things I mentioned feel like a duty to me, and like second nature. But those are not why I edit, not anymore. I edit to work together with other, reasonable, experienced editors to make and keep articles that are accurate, balanced, and beautiful. But it is exactly this I am taking a wikibreak from. My sense of purpose here has met a crisis when so many of the people who may talk perfectly reasonably, some of whom I've even looked up to, without daring or probably even knowing to say it, see me and my community as second-rate people, and our protection as contingent. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 20:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

June songs

my story today

Blueberry_Milk_Chocolate_Cookies_(5485902096)

I miss you, and your meaningful user page. Take some flowers on your way. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you <3 -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 21:58, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Welcome back! Would you have time to look into Ravel? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Tim riley there seems to be mistaking his own opinion on how the article should look for a consensus, which in fact does seem to exist on the talk page. I am not convinced, however, that WP:CANVASSing would do better at convincing him. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 11:55, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Well, he would certainly not listen to me, - remember Wehrmacht? I like an independent view, that's all. - 11 June or: Music not only by Bach --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

It kind of defeats the point of getting an independent view if one of the sides chooses who provides the independent view ;-). Maybe it's starting to be WP:ANI or WP:AE time, but I don't feel like looking into that enough right now. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:29, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I have not taken a good colleague to a noticeboard (this particular one invited me for Messiah, and we wrote Fauré's Requiem together), and don't plan to ever do it. - I still believe that you might be in an independent enough position to educate about what makes a consensus (regardless of which debate), but nevermind if you ca use your time more constructively elsewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Tea and cookies from Finland for you, in solidarity, Beccaynr (talk) 22:47, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

And here is a round Tula pryanik for you, also in solidarity. Comrade a!rado🇷🇺 (C🪆T) 04:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Glad to see the wikibreak was so short. Your contributions to Wikipedia are widely appreciated. Keep up the good work!--Ipigott (talk) 08:29, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Routine cleanup is something that comes to me almost instinctively at this point. I still need to reflect a lot over how I feel about so many editors, some of whom I respected very much, seemingly taking transphobia to be a topic area problem rather than bigotry unacceptable everywhere. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 08:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

I first registered in 2013, and I've seen a lot of improvement since then. I see a lot more out Wikipedians than I did ten years ago. I watched from the sidelines during the Manning ArbCom case and saw editors get halfhearted slaps on the wrists for all sorts of transphobic nonsense, and I see editors getting immediate AE TBans for similar edits these days. Ten years ago, MOS:ID was a redlink and 100-kilobyte flame wars were fought over how to describe transgender individuals. On today's Wikipedia, edits that misgender trans people are reverted on sight, and the responsible editors given templated warnings. (Yes, I've used this one myself.) I'm hopeful that this community will continue to improve, but I understand that improvement sometimes just isn't enough. I'm a cishet dude, but I've experienced my own share of frustration with the culture here on Wikipedia, and it isn't hard for me to imagine that it'd be very difficult to find the motivation to edit here when you have to deal with the same bullshit here as you probably do IRL. I've seen the good work you do here and I'd like to see you continue doing it, but I can't fault you if you decide that it's just not worth it. Either way I hope you know that, while I'll never truly understand what you're dealing with, I'm sympathetic to your frustrations and I hope things get better. — SamX [talk · contribs] 02:53, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

I don't want to play this old trope, because it doesn't sound sincere, but ... some of my friends are transgender and I have seen vile and abusive crap been thrown at them in a manner that makes me throw my hands up in despair and shout "you do realise this person you're throwing this at is an actual human being too, you know?" I've also seen the good work you do around here, and the commitment you have to the project, and I think you have more allies here than you might realise. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:05, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Yep, it's definitely not all bad. And I've concluded I'm quite bad at consciously going on an editing break. >_< So here I am again I guess. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 12:11, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Are you in a position to investigate a sockpuppet?

As per here Wikipedia:Teahouse#How do I report a sockpuppet? I think I found a sockpuppet. Can you help? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 06:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Not really. If you think you have good evidence, WP:SPI is the way to go. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 07:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Turned out I was right Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nothappycamping Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 07:34, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For gallantry in fighting bigots. Comrade a!rado🇷🇺 (C🪆T) 11:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

New message from Actualcpscm

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography § Complementary preferences. I pinged you for feedback on the proposed guideline update re. complementary preferences; I suppose it slipped through the cracks during this extensive discussion. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I did indeed miss that among some other notifications. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 16:39, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Collapse of Libreboot talk section regarding Yae4

Hi, maybe instead of collapsing it the way Yae4 did, if you want to collapse it, maybe collapse *just* the list of diffs, with a title like e.g. "List of diffs as evidence", or something like that. I could make such an edit myself, if you wish.Libreleah (talk) 17:48, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Well, that'd be better than nothing. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 19:33, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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Your recent editing history at Libreboot shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Yae4 (talk) 10:56, 18 June 2023 (UTC)