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:::In fact, the BBC source is [http://h2g2.com/help/contribute/ user generated] which means people can (and probably did) copy content from here to there rather than the other way around. '''[[User:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#00308F">St<span style="color:#ED1C24">★</span>lwart</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#32CD32">1</span><span style="color:#228B22">1</span><span style="color:#006600">1</span>]]</sup>''' 03:03, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
:::In fact, the BBC source is [http://h2g2.com/help/contribute/ user generated] which means people can (and probably did) copy content from here to there rather than the other way around. '''[[User:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#00308F">St<span style="color:#ED1C24">★</span>lwart</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#32CD32">1</span><span style="color:#228B22">1</span><span style="color:#006600">1</span>]]</sup>''' 03:03, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy keep''' for what is a confused attempt at [[WP:POINT|making a point]], trolling, or just an honest misunderstanding of how all of this works. [[User:GraniteSand|GraniteSand]] ([[User talk:GraniteSand|talk]]) 02:18, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
*'''Speedy keep''' for what is {{RPA|a confused attempt at [[WP:POINT|making a point]], trolling, or just}} an honest misunderstanding of how all of this works. [[User:GraniteSand|GraniteSand]] ([[User talk:GraniteSand|talk]]) 02:18, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - yeah, quite a few of those look like Wikipedia mirrors with content copied from our article rather than the other way around. Any suggestion that any of those were published before ours? '''[[User:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#00308F">St<span style="color:#ED1C24">★</span>lwart</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#32CD32">1</span><span style="color:#228B22">1</span><span style="color:#006600">1</span>]]</sup>''' 02:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' - yeah, quite a few of those look like Wikipedia mirrors with content copied from our article rather than the other way around. Any suggestion that any of those were published before ours? '''[[User:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#00308F">St<span style="color:#ED1C24">★</span>lwart</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Stalwart111|<span style="color:#32CD32">1</span><span style="color:#228B22">1</span><span style="color:#006600">1</span>]]</sup>''' 02:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Severe copyright violation. Copyvios report returns:
| Copyvios results show at least a 99.5% copyright violation | ||
|---|---|---|
| Site | Percent violation | direct compare link |
| http://www.lycaeum.org/wiki/Cocaine | 99.5% | Compare |
| http://www.wewantsexualfreedom.com/?p=40139 | 99.4% | Compare |
| http://www.uatests.com/drug-information/cocaine.php | 99.2% | Compare |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gIpkLzT2yg | 72.9% | Compare |
| http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/drug-that-spans-the-ages-the-history-of-cocaine-468286.html | 60.7% | Compare |
| https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2086.html | 46.5% | Compare |
| http://www.havocscope.com/tag/cocaine/ | 45.9% | Compare |
| http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A10832384 | 45.4% | Compare |
| http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/chibps/cocaine | 44.1% | Compare |
| http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/appb.htm | 43.5% | Compare |
| 71 URLs with lower confidence hidden. | Show them. | |
— {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 02:10, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Question: Aren't those websites using text from Wikipedia, not the other way around? Gnome de plume (talk) 02:16, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- I highly doubt that https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2086.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A10832384 or http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/appb.htm are is quoting Wikipedia. If all of the sources were quoting Wikipedia (they're not, we're quoting them), then we'd have an unsourced article which implies a lack of notability and as such is eligible for deletion. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 02:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- All under 50% on a topic type which lends itself to duplicate language across sources. Two of those sources are also fair use, they're not copyrighted. The third is not a BBC article and it is pulling substantial material from other sources. The article on Cocaine is not going to be delted, you're wasting people's time and abusing process to make a point. If you have a problem with material in the topic then address it on the talk page. GraniteSand (talk) 03:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- I highly doubt that https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2086.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A10832384 or http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/appb.htm are is quoting Wikipedia. If all of the sources were quoting Wikipedia (they're not, we're quoting them), then we'd have an unsourced article which implies a lack of notability and as such is eligible for deletion. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 02:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, not really, there are about 10 entries in the list above but the article has 139 references. So even if those were removed as being copies of this article rather than references, we'd still be left with about 129 secondary sources. St★lwart111 03:00, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- In fact, the BBC source is user generated which means people can (and probably did) copy content from here to there rather than the other way around. St★lwart111 03:03, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy keep for what is (Personal attack removed) an honest misunderstanding of how all of this works. GraniteSand (talk) 02:18, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - yeah, quite a few of those look like Wikipedia mirrors with content copied from our article rather than the other way around. Any suggestion that any of those were published before ours? St★lwart111 02:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)