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*'''Update:''' Due to a [[WP:HANDLE|temendous amount of work]] by [[User:Status]] in improving this topic, the article nominated as 16 word stub simply because it lacked use of available citatons, has now become a 2286 word C or B class article... that's a '''142x expansion''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jennifer_Lopez%3A_Feelin%27_So_Good&diff=500568924&oldid=500242441] of a (chuckle) topic "declared" ''unsorcable and non-notable'' so as to improve the project. Keeping this AFD open is pointless as the nominator's deletion rationale has been shown as incorrect in its presumptions. Perhaps someone might wish to early close this AFd per [[WP:SNOW]]? '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup>]]'' 23:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Update:''' Due to a [[WP:HANDLE|temendous amount of work]] by [[User:Status]] in improving this topic, the article nominated as 16 word stub simply because it lacked use of available citatons, has now become a 2286 word C or B class article... that's a '''142x expansion''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jennifer_Lopez%3A_Feelin%27_So_Good&diff=500568924&oldid=500242441] of a (chuckle) topic "declared" ''unsorcable and non-notable'' so as to improve the project. Keeping this AFD open is pointless as the nominator's deletion rationale has been shown as incorrect in its presumptions. Perhaps someone might wish to early close this AFd per [[WP:SNOW]]? '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup>]]'' 23:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. Seems like Splash is warring against each article worked by Status (and from J.Lo either). Also, this nomination shows he doesn't understand the policies. This article meets every guideline needed to be on WP. Cheers! —[[User:Hahc21|<font color="#333333">Hahc</font>]][[User_talk:Hahc21|<font color="#333333">'''21'''</font>]] 01:09, 4 July 2012 (UTC) |
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Delete - Non-notable concert film release. Fails WP:GNG and WP:MOVIE due to lack of coverage from verifiable or reliable independent sources. SplashScreen (talk) 22:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Aspects (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Aspects (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep for the topic meets both WP:GNG and WP:NF. Rather than just a concert film release, this was J- Lo's first DVD... and yes, it received the requisite coverage and commentary to meet WP:NF. The nom erred to say "lack of coverage from verifiable or reliable independent sources," as the simplest WP:BEFORE shows MANY. Perhaps his concern was that the article did not itself contain the available sources. I remind him of WP:NRVE. Topic notability is dependent on sources BEING aavilable, not there use or not within an article on that topic. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 10:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- So you're voting to keep the article because the AfD process says that sources need to exist, not because there are actual reliable, verifiable, third-party sources that comment on this release. If that is the case - where are they? SplashScreen (talk) 12:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I !vote based upon MY before, not yours. I have a quite difficult time believing that J-Lo's very-first-DVD-ever did not receive any sort of coverage. So before opining, I quickly looked and immediately found a decent and inciteful review at DVD Talk. [1] Hmmmm... seems a reliable source offering verifiability to me. Heck, even MLive here refers to it in a J-lo fiat comercial by stating folks might think the spot might even be a lost clip from the Feelin' So Good DVD. Had a merge and redirect been suggested, rather than an outright deletion, I might not have even bothered looking at all. What other sources were denied existance? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:41, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- They are actually referring to the video of her song "Feelin' So Good" when they state that. Statυs (talk) 06:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I thought the 2011 MLive statement "you might confuse it with a lost clip from the "Feelin' So Good" video" referred to the video's inclusion in the DVD. But "keep" none-the-less. Good job, by the way... kudos and thanks. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 09:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- They are actually referring to the video of her song "Feelin' So Good" when they state that. Statυs (talk) 06:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- I !vote based upon MY before, not yours. I have a quite difficult time believing that J-Lo's very-first-DVD-ever did not receive any sort of coverage. So before opining, I quickly looked and immediately found a decent and inciteful review at DVD Talk. [1] Hmmmm... seems a reliable source offering verifiability to me. Heck, even MLive here refers to it in a J-lo fiat comercial by stating folks might think the spot might even be a lost clip from the Feelin' So Good DVD. Had a merge and redirect been suggested, rather than an outright deletion, I might not have even bothered looking at all. What other sources were denied existance? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:41, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- So you're voting to keep the article because the AfD process says that sources need to exist, not because there are actual reliable, verifiable, third-party sources that comment on this release. If that is the case - where are they? SplashScreen (talk) 12:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep per Schmidt. I will add some additional content in the article. Additionally, the video was certified Gold by the RIAA. Statυs (talk) 04:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep as per sources provided above. Coverage does in fact exist for this DVD. Till I Go Home talk 05:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep there are many reasons to keep this article, and it is obviously currently in the middle of being expanded. −SoapJar 07:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Update Articles has been expanded 5x of how it originally appeared before being nominated. [2] Statυs (talk) 08:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep per the comments above and the expansion. — Tomica (talk) 11:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep The certification from the RIAA alone is far cry from being "non notable". Erick (talk) 23:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Update: Due to a temendous amount of work by User:Status in improving this topic, the article nominated as 16 word stub simply because it lacked use of available citatons, has now become a 2286 word C or B class article... that's a 142x expansion [3] of a (chuckle) topic "declared" unsorcable and non-notable so as to improve the project. Keeping this AFD open is pointless as the nominator's deletion rationale has been shown as incorrect in its presumptions. Perhaps someone might wish to early close this AFd per WP:SNOW? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems like Splash is warring against each article worked by Status (and from J.Lo either). Also, this nomination shows he doesn't understand the policies. This article meets every guideline needed to be on WP. Cheers! —Hahc21 01:09, 4 July 2012 (UTC)