User talk:Rustyleigh

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Hello, I'm Ohnoitsjamie. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:09, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Syco Music. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. ----Rdp060707|talk 09:14, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay I can understand, I just brought back my previous edit and added reliable sources. If you still think the sources ain't reliable enough, I can understand why removing it Rustyleigh (talk) 09:46, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rustyleigh! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Touch (Little Mix song) that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Muhandes (talk) 09:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay, so every time I make an edit and add any reliable source I have to explain what I write and have removed everytime I make an edit? Rustyleigh (talk) 10:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rustyleigh. I'm not sure how what you are asking relates to my message. My message was about marking an edit as minor. This should be kept to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. --Muhandes (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh okay! I think understand what you mean now! Thank you for clarifying things for me Rustyleigh (talk) 13:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

UK sales

Hello! Please, before using salesamount field in certification table to note sales for United Kingdom, do make sure that they are pure sales (downloads), not "chart sales", which based on article text usually means including streams. Only pure sales are to be input.Kleool (talk) 13:46, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

rifht thankyou! Rustyleigh (talk) 15:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021 (1)

Hello, I'm -ink&fables. I noticed that you recently removed content from Blackpink without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. -ink&fables «talk» 07:05, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I was going to remove it and put it in their main bio but I forgot to do it. If you like to keep it there, in it's original place I won't remove it again Rustyleigh (talk) 14:22, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Little Mix

Hello there. I can see you've reverted my good faith edits on Little Mix. If you have a look on the talk page, you can see there already some editors saying the introductory section for Little Mix is clearly far too long for a Wikipedia article. It's longer than Spice Girls, The Andrews Sisters, 2NE1 and everybody else on the Best-selling girl groups worldwide. It's way too detailed, especially when the rest of the article is fully formed. It must be very intimidating for the general reader. I started to try and trim it down without deleting anything and focussing on the main points for the entry. I'm being very careful not to lose any important information, especially references. Let's talk on the, er, talk page to try and get to a an overall improvement. You're obviously a keen and knowledgeable editor on this article, so I hope we can all happily work together. I'm a Little Mix fan by the way! Seaweed (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

My apologies. I was completely ignorant to the hardwork you was putting in but I didn't mean to remove them out of bad will. I just thought it would all look nice in one slot but I can understand now what you mean. I did do some editing just now and I shortened the introduction and added any parts that was previously there into different sections. If there is still a problem I understand if you want to remove them again! Thank you for being messaging me and informing me about what I did wrong, I appreciate it. Also same I'm a little mix fan too! Rustyleigh (talk) 21:03, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

No need to apologise! It's all good. We're all on the same side! I was partly saying that we can discuss edits on the talk page of that article rather than reverting things straightaway. Anyway, I'm sure we can slowly improve the Little Mix article to make easier to read. Personally speaking, I've always found it difficult to edit articles on topics that I'm really interested in. It's so easy to end writing too many positive things about something. I always try and remind myself that Wikipedia should be neutral and encyclopedic. Although it's not longer official policy, I'm a big fan of Let the facts speak for themselves. Seaweed (talk) 13:03, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Little Mix

Hello! I wanted to address why I changed the leads on the girls' articles, so that we can avoid more changing. A lead should only summarise the article, so it shouldn't be too long nor too detailed; that's why I cut the detail on their X Factor experiences. I also removed "rose to prominence/fame" as that's a biased term which violates MOS:FLOWERY. – DarkGlow • 13:08, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi! oh so using rose to prominence/fame is a violation on wikipedia? It's was used before for jesy main articles before i made any changes Rustyleigh (talk) 14:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

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Between Us

Hi. Sorry, but I'm getting quite annoyed over your constant refusal to adhere to the MOS and the basics of editing Wikipedia that you display each time you edit Between Us (Little Mix album). Firstly, you keep putting the album title between quotation marks. Quotation marks is for direct quotations and song titles. Album titles should be italicised like this. Pretty sure even mobile editors like yourself can type apostrophes to create italic markup. Secondly, you keep adding unsourced bits of information and removing/adding countries in sentences about where the album charted. Firstly, do not add any factoids to the article about "it's the group's highest charting album since x in x country" unless it is sourced. If it isn't, I will keep removing it. If you are citing a chart that is listed in the "Charts" section, then use refnames. That is what they exist for. You changed the mention of the album charting in Lithuania and Italy in the commercial performance section to the United States and Canada, yet kept refnames there for Lithuania and Italy. This is lazy, and I'm done cleaning up after you. If you can't utilise refnames or the basics of sourcing on Wikipedia, please consider brushing up on WP:V and WP:Citing sources before continuing or I will revert your contributions outright. This has happened at least five times now. Thank you. Ss112 09:52, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

I forgot to include the sources to the new information that I placed, we can all forget from time to time to place the sources that are needed when we edit. Secondly most of the information I edit onto these pages have been legit and backed up by a source, except for times where I've used sources which are considered unreliable by wiki or i have forgotten to place them. The reason why I put the album in quotation marks is because I've seen other editors do it in the past especially on little mix pages, so if that isn't supposed to happen then I'll learn from it next time and not repeat the same action, and just use it for song titles. Also the reason for why I changed the mention of the album charting in Lithuania and Italy in the commercial performance was because I only originally placed it there when the album only charted in a few territories, plus I removed those countries and placed it with the others because i considered them to be the bigger music markets and there's no point in mentioning every country that the album has charted in. (I have also been informed by another editor to not mention every country artists/groups albums chart in because there no need too) In the meantime I will work on my past mistakes and learn from them, and I will work on my mistakes that I've been doing and learn from doing them, thankyou for telling me Rustyleigh (talk) 15:30, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Maybe you added the quotation marks because it seen on Little Mix articles. This is because is a song. For albums, it should be in italics per the Manual of Style. Maybe that’s were you got confused. Hope this helps! :) PopLizard86427 (talk) 20:57, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou for explaining it to me! appreciate it:) Rustyleigh (talk) 00:30, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Restoring unverified claims

What is the reason for this edit? The claim that DNA is the highest-charting debut album by a British girl group on the Billboard 200 is factually untrue and not supported by reliable sources. The source used to support this claim merely states that it is the highest first-week chart position for a debut album by a British girl group. That does not mean it is the highest-charting overall, as chart positions can improve after the first week. And the claim is demonstrably false, given the Spice Girls (a British girl group) had a debut album that peaked at no. 1 on the Billboard 200, thus giving them a higher-charting debut album than DNA which peaked at no. 4. Please do not restore unverified claims. Bennv123 (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

As for this other source you cited, you are again misinterpreting the source. The source is talking about the entry chart position, not overall chart position. It says DNA debuted at no. 4 on the chart, which is higher than Spice's debut at no. 6. That is true, but Spice would rise in the charts later on, and eventually peaked at no. 1. Bennv123 (talk) 17:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Please stop adding the unverified claims without any discussion. The issue is that you are misinterpreting what the sources are saying. The sources are saying DNA had the highest debut chart position (i.e. highest chart entry). But that does not mean it is the highest-charting overall since chart positions can improve after the first week. Again, Spice entered the chart at number six but peaked at number one (source), which makes this claim demonstrably untrue. Show me a reliable source that explicitly says DNA is the highest-charting debut album by a British girl group. Bennv123 (talk) 17:38, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Peaking and debuting is not the same so i think you've got things messed up. In its debut week spice girls debut album debuted at number six in the states and eventually reached a new peak of number one. Little mix debut album dna in it's debut week debuted higher than the spice girls debut album which is why they hold the record for the highest charting debut album. I will add the information again but with a new source but if that isn't still to your satisfaction we can ask another editor what they think. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-22788966 Rustyleigh (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, peaking and debuting are not the same thing. But claiming an album is the "highest charting debut album" is referring to the debut album's peak, not it's debut week. Bennv123 (talk) 17:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

You also mentioned for me to "stop adding the unverified claims without any discussion" The information has literally been on wikipedia for years so I haven't added anything, I'm only going by what's already on here. Also there have been multiple editors who have seen and read this information and I'm pretty sure if they found it unreliable (which it isn't) they would have had removed it by now Rustyleigh (talk) 17:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I removed the incorrect claims and you added them back, that is what I was referring to. Just because no one caught it before doesn't make it accurate. There have been hoaxes on Wikipedia that have lasted over a decade (see Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia). Bennv123 (talk) 17:49, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Lets just ask another editor what they think. @Richard3120 can you confirm or deny that little mix debut album DNA is the highest charting debut album by a british girl group on the US Billboard 100. Is this correct or does the wording need to be altered Rustyleigh (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)