The page [[Ismail Khilath Rasheed]] is redirected from the page [[Ismail Rasheed]], I feel it is useless to keep the page [[Ismail Rasheed]]. So, how about making [[User:ZZ47/Ismail Rasheed]] moved to the name [[Ismail Rasheed]], as ''Ismail Khilath Rasheed'' and ''Ismail Rasheed'' are not the same person.? [[User:ZZ47|ZZ47]] ([[User talk:ZZ47|talk]]) 12:57, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
The page [[Ismail Khilath Rasheed]] is redirected from the page [[Ismail Rasheed]], I feel it is useless to keep the page [[Ismail Rasheed]]. So, how about making [[User:ZZ47/Ismail Rasheed]] moved to the name [[Ismail Rasheed]], as ''Ismail Khilath Rasheed'' and ''Ismail Rasheed'' are not the same person.? [[User:ZZ47|ZZ47]] ([[User talk:ZZ47|talk]]) 12:57, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yup, that sounds like a good idea. I'll do it right now. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 19:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yup, that sounds like a good idea. I'll do it right now. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite#top|talk]]) 19:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
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Looks better. It has been awhile since I took a list to FLC, but at that time, you couldn't use color backgrounds that had text. There were exceptions based on color and use, but the cell had to have a mark, like an asterisk. Bgwhite (talk) 00:59, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done Thanks for pointing this out (you and the Lady) in the first place. I mean, I knew it was ugly, but I didn't know it violated more than just standards of decency. I left an explanation on the talk page; let's hope it doesn't get changed back. It's your favorite show too, right? Drmies (talk) 01:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have cable. After seeing the description of the show, it just reinforced my stance that cable is a waste of money and Netflix is wonderful. I do miss Alton... Bgwhite (talk) 06:47, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I guess you can use your Netflix to catch up on the best of cable. For me, that means Breaking Bad. (Of course, within the last day, I've said that I didn't like The Social Network or The Matrix, two exceedingly popular films, so my taste may be somewhat eccentric.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM08:57, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen the 1st season of Breaking Bad on Netflix and the 2nd season is on my todo. I refuse to watch The social network because of our mutual hatred of Facebook. I just got done watching the 1st season Downton Abbey. Currently on the 2nd season of BBC's Being Human and 3rd season of Sons of Anarchy is next. Edwardian drama, Vampire/Ghost/Werewolf and Motorcycle gang shows. I think that is eclectic. Has someone watched The Princess Bride yet? Bgwhite (talk) 09:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I meant to answer this, then I got involved in writing a coupla articles, and it slipped my mind. I'm glad to see that you've watched some of Breaking Bad and liked it enough to want more. I've never heard of Downton Abbey or the BBC's Being Human. I was aware of the SyFy channel's Being Human (which I've now discovered is based on the BBC series), but I've never seen it and know nothing about it. As for Sons of Anarchy, I saw the first episode, didn't like it, and haven't watched it since. Yes, I've finally seen The Princess Bride, and answered that question more thoroughly on my talk page.
Oh, BTW, did you realize that your recent edits are not marked as minor? Once, the "Minor edit" box on my AWB somehow got unchecked accidentally, and I didn't realize it for a while. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM23:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I was hoping that we can reach a compromise for the colors in the Dance Moms article. I tried lightening some of the colors to make them more compliant with Wikipedia guidelines. Since you were the one who added the Color tag, I'd like you to take a look at the new colors. If you say they look good then I'll add them to the article. For An Angel (talk) 18:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He never was on the regular season roster. Nobility guidelines say, "Have appeared in one game..." It means regular season game. It never says has been on a preseason roster. If you are going to contest a prod, don't state invalid reasons. Yea, I know how basketball articles work at AFD... A foreign player has to play professional basketball, an American having played high school basketball qualifies. A sophomore high-school basketball player was kept because he was receiving mid-level recruiting interest and local papers had done a few stories on him. My favorite was a walk-on (Indiana, Illinois... was a Big-10 school) that played 8 total minutes in his career was kept because he did play in a game. The US bias is infuriating. To be fair, the European bias in football is just as bad. Bgwhite (talk) 00:56, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yet assignment does not confer nobility. You "have won an award, or led the league in a major statistical category of the Continental Basketball Association or NBA Development League." He never has played an NBA game and never won an award or lead in the stats of the D-league. He does not merit automatic nobility. If this was a European player, he would not be getting an article. But, he played U.S. High School basketball, so he gets an article. Bgwhite (talk) 01:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, Smith was, briefly, on the the Rockets' active, regular season roster. (He was sent back to the Vipers, like, a day afterwards, but the NBA lists him as a D-League Call-Up.) I know that he didn't make an in-game appearance, but my edit summary was accurate. Anyway, Smith did earn a spot on the D-League All-Star team, which could be considered an award: [1]Zagalejo^^^02:12, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hallo Bgwhite,
I am new to editing Wikipedia pages and wanted to ask if I added an appropriate amount of links to the page "Egbert Baque"? Beyond adding links to words/phrases, I could not find other information on specifically linking pages. Many thanks for your help.
--Rcrainey (talk) 13:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)rcrainey[reply]
I did some more cleaning up. I added a reference to the prize he was nominated for. I combined all the worldcat references into one link in the external links section. Removed the reference to Wikipedia as it is not allowed as an unreliable source... anybody can edit Wikipedia. I also cleaned up the over wikilinks. Generally it is best to have only one wikilink per subject... example is you had Cologne wikilinked multiple times.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean about "added an appropriate amount of links". But, if you are referring the the orphan tag at the top, that gets added when Egbert Baque is not wikilinked on another article somewhere on WikiPedia. Here is all the articles linked to Egbert Baque.
New tennis article. He appears not to be notable. However, I'm not sure on the Men's side. Could you take a look? If he is notable, could you tell me why, so I can learn. Bgwhite (talk) 09:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I sure can help. The players should always have an ITF and ATP link on the bottom of the page, as does Thomas Kromann. Look at the ATP link and you'll notice a career won-loss record in singles and doubles. If you look at the ITF link you'll see the same thing under "main draw" tour level only. Sometimes the win-loss doesn't match the atp and itf... I don't know why. Now according to Tennis Project Guidelines a player is notable if he has EVER played in the main draw of a tour level event... whether they win or lose or whether it's doubles or singles. So those win-loss records are dead giveaways of notability. If you look at the ATP playing activity it goes year by year and if you see a win or a loss at the top you can scroll down and find the actual tournament he played in. Instead of F1 or F2 (Futures) or Ch (Challenger)...you'll see blah blah 250, blah blah 500... those are tour events. In Thomas's case you see something different. In 2012 activity you see SLO vs. DEN EAGI 1st Rd... that's a Davis Cup event and simply playing in that also make a player instantly notable. To confirm you can go to www.daviscup.com and do a player search under Denmark and his name will appear. This guy is notable per tennis guidelines.
It's not in our guidelines but I'm gonna talk to editors about it. Any new player article should really have a ref to that notability source to help out wikipedia in sorting good articles from bad. I have been trying to do that myself in the last bunch of new players I've added. I'll put this on you talk page too so you'll always be able to find it in your archives if needed. I hope this helps you out and happy editing. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I saw your latest revert and had to laugh. Then I moved sideways to his dad, Myoma U Than Kywe and looked at the history ...
I came across this AfD and preferred to give it the benefit of the doubt given lack of English-language sources and lack of translation tools for the Burmese sources. I started expanding coverage on the awards, authors and government ministers who dish out awards to get a better feel for the area. There are huge gaps. Given the political situation, it is hard to find objective sources. But I have to agree that dumping in unsourced puff is not the way to fix the problem. Karate instructor, eh? :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 16:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure statements that he is a professional golfer, cured cancer and will bring world peace will be added shortly. Hmmm, I wonder if Myoma U Than Kywe is Kim Jong-il's alter ego? I completely understand your position and commend you for it. Burmese articles do need a champion to help them out. I've been thinking of changing my vote to neutral because of your statements. Bgwhite (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not feel strongly about this one myself. I started Sarpay Beikman Manuscript Awards with some lists of winners, which I assumed would be mostly notable authors, sort of like winning the Booker Prize. But when I try to find enough for an article, many of the authors do not have much coverage. That may not be entirely a language problem. To win an award, at least until recently, an author had to be government-approved. Maybe these are not the best authors. Most of the Burmese authors that do have articles did not win prizes, and vice-versa. I may keep adding content in this area. Some notable authors did win prizes. And I suppose just getting your picture in the paper with the Secretary-1 is something of a notable achievement. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:27, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I saw you removed the blog link from the article I created. Could you explain why? I don't object, I'm just relatively new to Wikipedia and would like to understand the rules. Eike Hein (talk) 16:57, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. The relevant guide is at WP:ELNO. Generally, social networking sites, blogs, fanzines and YouTube type sites shouldn't be in external links. Personally, if the person doesn't have a website given in the article, I don't mind one blog or social networking site. I also don't mind certain types of YouTube links, such as for a musician linking to a song of theirs.
The article you created is just fine except that it needs a couple of sources. Memory Alpha isn't a reliable source (it is a great site). A reliable source about some of his books is needed. Bgwhite (talk) 18:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. I PROD'ed Stian Sortevik last night, and to be honest, I didn't believe that the PROD would go through. But that was because I believed some unexperienced editors, not familiar with the notability guidelines would just remove the tag. But I didn't see this coming, one of the most experienced editors (you) removing a PROD on an not-notable footballer. Yes he is in the squad of Stabæk, but WP:NFOOTY clearly states that you have to play a match, not only be in the squad, to be notable. And for the futsal-part: futsal is like any other sport: "have participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level such as the Olympics." Qualification matches for the World Cup is not enough. I'm not going to do anything else about this article, since he will probably play when Tippeligaen starts this spring (it's WP:CRYSTAL, but I can't be arsed to take all these footballers to AfD when they will be notable in two months), but the next time you might want to know the notability guidelines before removing a PROD. Sincerely, Mentoz86 (talk) 11:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But not a karate teacher
I thought I would add the sumo wrestling and octuplets later, after getting past the initial scrutiny for a new article... Seriously, Daw Win Win Myint illustrates the difficulty with Burmese writers. At least six books, many poems and stories published in magazines, two major national awards, and this article gives the sum total of what can be found on the web in English. The defaultsort with Burmese names is just the name as written? I will try to remember to put that in. Thanks for the hint. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:24, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the compliment on the water polo work. :) I'd really like to see some one create an article about the Great Britain women's team. There should be a few articles to illustrate it for the current squad if some one wants to visually identify who they are. :) Commented on the Wikiproject sport thing. --LauraHale (talk) 09:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
American so I can understand the pain of issues with sport. Australia has freedom of panorama. I can take sport pictures here that I can't in the USA. (And then, after seeing a Commons photographer with his $1,300 camera, I went out and got one because I see enough live sports and upload enough crap pictures using my iPhone to make it worth while.) Water polo live is fun. The level of play is truly outstanding. :) I'm hoping having successfully done one team that I can get permission from others. (My goal is the Australia women's national basketball team, who have a training camp in Canberra in May.) Supervisor is giving me feedback on the Ides of March. Working through existing feedback. I need to get my abstract written and a few other things. My dissertation should pass on examination with major/minor revisions at this point. Thus, not as stressed as I could be. But yes, no real strenuous objections from me. :) --LauraHale (talk) 09:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Bgwhite, I noted your contribution to Talk:Giacinto Berloco. You have rated the article as stub class. I have checked the quality scale and it describes stub class as "...little more than a dictionary definition". Feeling some pride for the articles I write, and having spend some time on this article, I tend to feel this is a low nomination which does not do the article justice. In my (as writer probably biased) opinion the article is more a start class, described in the quality scale as "Provides some meaningful content, but the majority of readers will need more.". I would like to ask you reconsider the rating of this article. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rating an article is somewhat subjective. Rating can also be done by anyone. If you feel it is a start, then do it... I have no objections. Bgwhite (talk) 23:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The link you see is a few days late in reporting the charts that are published every Friday morning. Here is the link for Amanda Mair charting date 24 February 2012 in week 8 of the Swedish Albums Chart. http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/ The albums chart indicates her as a new entry to the Top 60 Albums chart straight at #16 in the first week of the release of her self-titled album Amanda Mair. The reference I gave in the swedishcharts.com will show it automatically in only 2-3 days, as they need time to duplicate the information they receive from the official sverigetopplistan.se chart. The reason I put the swedishcharts.com is that it is permanent whereas the page sverigetopplistan.se gets updated and the front page gets replaced with newer charts every week. For example swedishcharts.com shows the 17 February chart with Ansiktet #1 with "Äckligt" whereas we already know the #1 was replaced and now Michel Teló is the #1 with "Ai se eu te pego!" with chart dated 24 February... So there also the http://www.swedishcharts.com is lagging a few days as well.... werldwayd (talk) 03:27, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He was a journalist. And he does fit the criteria of Media, having worked in multiple different forms of media: television, film, commercials, and music videos, as well as journalism. There's no need to remove the archival info and talk page header, they are only helpful. :) — Cirt (talk) 06:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He wasn't notable for a journalist. Shouldn't add banners for things they weren't notable for. Example, you wouldn't add the Golf banner to every politician. The Criminal Biography banner for politicians is a different story...
Per MOS guidelines, the archive banner only goes on a talk page that contains alot of archives. Also, you had it auto archiving every 30 days, so your talk messages would be deleted. The Talk Header template only goes on pages that have alot of debate, that are controversial subject or high profile people. Blackburn doesn't meet this guideline. Bgwhite (talk) 07:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but for a page like this, simply can only benefit to have the talk header and archiving already setup, doesn't hurt it at all. :) — Cirt (talk) 07:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He is not notable for journalism and television... banners should be removed. Getting an award for a commercial does not make one notable for TV. The archives DO hurt. Any talk message is deleted and most people don't look at the archives. Having a talk message visible or not... I'd vote visible. This person is probably not going to get alot of messages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgwhite (talk • contribs)
Well, I've taken your advice to heart, and changed the archival to 5 threads min left on the page, and only every 90 days of inactivity, so the archives can't hurt now. :) — Cirt (talk) 17:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The Latin isn't Latin, it's Lorem ipsum - mock or modified Latin used as a filler or placeholder. This indicates that the site is probably under construction. Peridon (talk) 13:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Yep - the address is that of 93VISIONS, a supplier of free templates. That is unlikely to be the address of the charity. Peridon (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Virtually the whole thing is in Lorem ipsum. I know I wouldn't put a site up in such an early state of construction. Peridon (talk) 13:20, 28 February 2012 (UTC)" Peridon (talk) 13:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bgwhite - fine by me - the only reason i created the page was to split the information out from the article on Hahn Island, where it was overloading and unbalancing the article. BTW, the fact that a landmass (even if only a small island) is named after a person is usually enough for that person's article to survive a prod, so I have removed that... you may want to take this to a full AfD. Grutness...wha?00:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings BG, its the IP formerly known as Kumioko. I was also working on a task for the Persondata short description and the only way I could get it to work reasonably well was to start with the more important stuff and work down. So basically I did several groups for several things. I had a group that dealt with politicians and started with President and went down from there (I had about 200 different politician categories captured), then it would go into another group that added military stuff like General, Medal of Honor, a couple other medals like Navy Cross, and down (that had about 500 categories, then I went into A few other things like people who won a Nobel prize or about 20 other things. I was still working on it but I was up over 1500 lines of code and still working on it. I don't think its going to be an easy thing to do with the edit perfectionists out there. I got pissed at the whole situation and deleted the code (as well as the 9500 plus lines for adding infoboxes) but I thought I would tell you the thought process I had anyway in case it would help. Good luck. BTW, I forgot to mention I was only working on US stuff so including non US stuff will be a lot more complicated. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 04:09, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I also noticed your comments here. I'm sad to hear that me and the work I tried to do has been reduced to the butt of a joke and sorry that they made that comment in general. Comments like that and seeing how people thought of me are making me feel better about my decision to stop editing. Cheers. 71.163.243.232 (talk) 04:33, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, your work is the gift that keeps on giving :). It made me mad. I wrote several drafts of responses that were none to nice. I slept on it, calmed down and then told the person to ($_%#? Off.
I do a few things different when I need a change of pace for a few hours. Most are winding down. So, going thru category by category will be becoming my new change of pace routine. Thank you for all the help you have given me. If you ever need something done around here, give me a yell Bgwhite (talk) 06:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings Bgwhite, per the discussion on my talk page I was hoping I could ask a couple questions so I don't have to keep beating up ACdixon with all my stupid questions. I have had quite a few so I figure if I spread them out a little I won't burn out one editor. :-) I am finding editing to be quite difficult frankly and am gathering quite a few notes/questions on my user page so I figure I better ask around and get some out of the way. It seems like the more experienced users do things intuitively that aren't necessarily written in "Da rules" (sorry for the Fairly odd parents reference, couldn't resist) anywhere for us new folks.
How do I add the ability of seeing persondata and why are the instructions so difficult? Why not just add a checkbox under my preferences or gadgets or something? I think I have followed the directions but still don't see it.
What are more important and what takes precedence, Policies, Guidelines, Essays, other stuff?
Can anyone add the WikiProject banner for a project? Do you need to be a member of the project? I added a couple and thought I should ask before I incur the wrath of some unhappy editor. No offense intended but that seems to happen quite a bit around here.
Is there anything special I need to do about duplicative ones (Biography and Military work group; Military history and Biography task force for example seems sorta duplicative to me).
Is there a standard naming policy for parameter names of things like WikiProject templates. For example, some say (needs-image, needs photo, photo-needed, with and without the - or with spaces, etc.)? I assume the answer is no and I think thats very confusing for new users.
No problem in asking me questions. Ask as many as you want. I've got my little niche in Wikipedia land. I know or stumbled onto things in my niche. But, go out into something else in Wikia and I can become lost. Yes, there is a learning curve around here. The best things you can do is don't do to many things, don't go to quickly and pick an area you want to explore. Ohh... and ask questions.
I don't have anything to "see" persondata. I use a tool to enter vales into persondata and fix other errors. A very easy tool is, Wikipedia:Persondata-o-matic. The idiot wonderful computer people updated yesterday the version of MediaWiki that Wikipedia uses. The update has broken user scripts, so for right now, you can't see persondata the way you are trying. It's broken alot of things I use too.
Usually it is Policy and then Guidelines. Essays usually don't contain any rules. Some essays are just a person's thoughts and others contain useful information. Each WikiProject may have their own set of rules.
The Biography and Military Projects are separate. Each Project is in their own separate universe. Setting the military work group in Biography will put the article in a special spot in Biography land. The only things that overlap are "listas" and "need-infobox". If it is a Biography article, listas should only go into the Biography banner. I usually put need-infobox outside of all the the banners using the {{Infobox requested}} template.
There shouldn't be any red links from banners. As you said, either Kumioko was planning to do it or he made a mistake.
WikiProject Biography is the first Project Banner to go on the page of living people. After that, I usually put them in alphabetical order.
I usually put the parameters in a banner the way they are ordered in the template. Template:Wikiproject Biography has living first and class second, so that is the way I order them. I use a tool that puts listas last, but otherwise I try and follow the order.
I don't put spaces in between things. For example, class=start and not class = start. Listas requires no spaces, so I do it for everything else. Kumioko and I did it because we are computer people and spaces makes the files bigger. Old habits die hard.
needs-photo= is the standard way, so I put it that way. However, for biographies, I put it outside the banners in the {{Image requested}} template. I know if the Biography has the musician work group, the image requested template looks like: {{Image requested|musicians}}. Image requested allows you to make multiple photo requests.
I use a tool called AutoHotkey to fill in things. If I press the windows key + "s", it prints out "|sports-work-group=yes|sports-priority=low". My script is at User:Bgwhite/AutoHotkey. I also have a notepad open so I can copy paste somethings I can't remember.... all the different parameters for Image requested for example.
I didn't learn things overnight and I still learn things. Don't worry about making mistakes, because you will. Just try the best you can. Bgwhite (talk) 23:50, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the help. I have a lot going on this weekend so I didn't know if I was gonna be able to login till next week. Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time. ShmuckatellieJoe (talk) 01:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
New Page Triage engagement strategy released
Hey guys!
I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.
You cleaned up a page I was in the process of editing, getting rid of the headings as I was in the process of adding the info. Do you check to see if an edit is in process? I just took a coffee break. Marj (talk) 08:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is no way tell if somebody is in the middle of editing a page. All you can see is if somebody saved an edit while you are editing. I usually copy my work and past it again in a new window. Bgwhite (talk) 08:51, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bgwhite, I think you are a little busy that's why you didn't reply. Can you please help me in using AWB, I read User manual on AWB but understood a little. Hopefully.--Assassin'S CreedT - E - C - G - 14:28, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
your recent change to the Carmen Balcells article
You changed the lead sentence from "is the most famous literary agent in the world of Spanish letters" to "is a literary agent of Spanish letters". You said this was using peacock terms. It is not. It is the way she is described in the Spanish press. The second citation takes us to her bio at the Prince of Spain's personal foundation where (direct quotation) it says "is the most celebrated literary agent in the world of Spanish-language literature". If she were just a literary agent she wouldn't be notable and wouldn't deserve an article on Wikipedia. I am going to change it back.--GroveGuy (talk) 00:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To have that as the first sentence is a peacock term. It is like a movie article with the lead sentence by "critic" proclaiming the movie the best in the world. The lead paragraph is to describe what follows in the article, not to throw out superlatives. Bgwhite (talk) 04:22, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am struggling to understand your viewpoint. This is a direct quotation by the son of the King of Spain. This is what the largest newspaper in the Spanish language calls her; "es una de las personalidades más poderosas e influyentes de las letras hispanas." But I will change it back because this is the first time I ever got an article on the front page of Wikipedia and I don't want my mother to see this disruptive tag.--GroveGuy (talk) 11:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Contact User:Drmies about it. He excels at giving advice on new articles. It's sort of his specialty. If he feels it is ok or should be worded different, I sure wouldn't have a problem. Also, be very careful as you have a conflict of interest. See WP:COI for more info. Not saying you shouldn't work on your Mother's article, but you should take caution. Bgwhite (talk) 21:42, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have contacted Drmies. I agree to abide by his decision. Also - there is no conflict of interest - my mother is not involved except as a reader of my articles. I do not know Carmen Balcells. She is just someone my friends were talking about and I was amazed there was no Wikipedia article about her. So I created one. --GroveGuy (talk) 23:12, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Account password question
Greetings Bgwhite. Sorry to bug you again so soon but someone in my office just asked me a question and I cannot, for the life of me, find the answer. If someone creates an account, forgets their password and does not have an EMAIL in their account settings, is it possible to reset it somehow or do they just need to create a new account? Thanks in advance. ShmuckatellieJoe (talk) 19:49, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is no way to recover or reset the password without an email account. They can set up a new one. It is "illegal" to have two accounts unless you are upfront about it. They can get banned for having two accounts, it is called Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. I have a second account, User:BG19bot, but the page lists that it is a secondary account. On their old account, add the {{Former account}} template to take of the problem... {{Former account|ShmuckatellieJoe}} Also, add and email address to it or use something like Lastpass. Bgwhite (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok well thats too bad. I told him and he said it wasn't worth the hassle. As he put it, if Wikipedia doesn't have a way to recover his old account and then wants to add all sorts of rules and caveats to avoid him getting banned, because they are incapable of recovering the old account, its a good enough reason for him to stay away. I hate to sound like a jerk about it but I rather agree with him. I guess that also means that Kumioko user is out of luck too according to his userpage. ShmuckatellieJoe (talk) 23:51, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the problem being is how do we know your friend and his old account go together? Wikipedia is always at the top of reports where privacy is concerned... Wikipedia has nothing around tying an account to anything except an email address. Wikipedia never asks for anything else and doesn't place cookies on your computer. Second, if you friend doesn't have alot of edits, what does it matter? They can retrieve all their old pages because all pages are publicly viewable. Only thing changed would be their edit count starting at 0.
There is a big problem with Sock puppet accounts. But, I said, "can get banned" and not will get banned. If their old account never edits again, there is a 0% chance of them ever getting banned. I was just offering a suggestion above to make it clear to anyone about the change of accounts.
Kumioko did it on purpose. I think he was so angry he wasn't thinking straight on alot of things, but I can't blame him. More importantly, if he comes back, he doesn't want to be associated with the Kumioko account. There is too much stigma attached to Kumioko. It is called Wikipedia:Clean start. Bgwhite (talk) 00:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
All good points. Its still isn't an easy process and I would guess that rules like that are part of the reason why there are so many Sockpuppet accounts that get banned. MY guess is most don't know the rule so they just create a new account and edit in good faith. At some point someone finds out and criminalize the activity. Only a guess mind you I really don't know.
Thats probably true for Kumioko, it seems a shame. In the week or so I have been here, reading and bouncing around it seems like there isn't a page they didn't touch. The name was absolutely every where. Maybe that was part of the problem, I dunno. I looked at his edit count with that edit counter thing. 320, 000 holy crap. They must have lived on here, lol. If I invested that much time and effort I would probably get a bit angry too. It doesn't seem like the situation was handled well at all but what do I know, I've been here for a week. Anyway, thanks again. ShmuckatellieJoe (talk) 00:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for correct this article and your time. You are absolutely right. I have been trying to get more reliable sources but I couldnt find more, online at least. You can delete this article. Like i said, thank you again from Miami. Im really appreciate it.
thank you for the corrections on this article. But you are absollutely right. I have been trying
New Persondata-o-matic release
FYI I've put a new release up at Wikipedia:Persondata-o-matic with Hellknowz's changes and a few others, should deal with the problem of piped links in fields. A comprehensive solution would require somewhat more work, but this will deal with most cases. Dcoetzee09:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that you added the article I recently created on former Wyoming politician Harriet Elizabeth Byrd to WikiProject Nevada and would like to know your reasoning for doing so since she has no obvious connection to Nevada. --TommyBoy (talk) 14:14, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response. I figured it was a mistake, and went ahead and removed the WikiProject tag. Incidentally enough, as a member of three different U.S. state WikiProjects, I have made the same mistake myself when adding WikiProject tags to articles, so it's no big deal. --TommyBoy (talk) 03:01, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Page Triage newsletter
Hey guys!
Thanks to all of you who have commented on the New Page Triage talkpage. If you haven't had a chance yet, check it out; we're discussing some pretty interesting ideas, both from the Foundation and the community, and moving towards implementing quite a few of them :).
In addition, on Tuesday 13th March, we're holding an office hours session in #wikimedia-office on IRC at 19:00 UTC (11am Pacific time). If you can make it, please do; we'll have a lot of stuff to show you and talk about, including (hopefully) a timetable of when we're planning to do what. If you can't come, for whatever reason, let me know on my talkpage and I'm happy to send you the logs so you can get an idea of what happened :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bgwhite, Can I please move the Ismail Seremba page from Article to User Talk till he is called up for senior team? :)
You can't put it into your talk page, but you can copy it to anywhere in your user area. There's a page called a "Sandbox", that people have to test out edits or place copies of pages they are working on. I've already copied the article to User:ZZ47/Sandbox. Bgwhite (talk) 10:35, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks Bgwhite. So, Can you please tell me how to save the page by deletion?
I put some "needs citations" tags in the article. Could you find references for those. Also, make sure you sign you posts with ~~~~ to leave your signature behind. Bgwhite (talk) 07:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry man.. There are no sources for them in any websites. They are too old Tele dramas, of 1990s. So, what can i do to solve the problem? ZZ47 (talk) 13:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've got a source. A recent news from the website www.haveeru.com.mv. But the problem is that, it's written in Dhivehi Language. So, is there anything i can do? ZZ47 (talk) 13:39, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I didn't know your replied. Dhivehi Language references are fine. English is preferred over any other language. But, sometimes the references are only in another language. Bgwhite (talk) 06:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just letting you know that the diff display gadget you told me about has just been enhanced. It's now much closer to the option which you said you were eagerly anticipating. (It's not the same yet, but getting there....) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM21:55, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I wish I could say I had altruistic motives on fixing your banner. But, there is a database page of broken banners that get updated once a week. I fix them because half of them are my mistakes. Bgwhite (talk) 07:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, fair enough. Funnily enough I read something similar on Kumioko's talk archive. Although the user seems to have fallen from grace I have found their edits to be a trove of useful knowledge. The user seemed to dabble in just about everything and appeared to me to possess at least equal skills in most respects as any administrator I have come in contact with, without having access to the tools. I expect it will be a long time before Wikipedia can replace them. I regret I didn't get to know them before they lost interest in the project. Anyway, thanks again. ShmuckatellieJoe (talk) 14:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
About Article: Rasaq
Hey, you've put the article Rasaq up for speedy deletion, and it was deleted. I am not a professional wikipedian and don't know if I could undo that. It would of been better if you posted it directly saying that the article has copyright on it, I would've removed them.
The entire article was a copy-paste from another website and not just parts. So, there would be an empty article if the copyrighted material were removed. You can create the article again. Bgwhite (talk) 18:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Markéta Ringelová
Hi Bgwhite, I notice you tagged Markéta Ringelová for the German football task force. I don't know much about this player, but I am interested why you tagged her as German when I found no information about this when I created the article. Maybe you could share it with me or add it to the article? Thank you. - Cloudz67910:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A quick note
Hi Bgwhite, I saw what you wrote here and here, and while I've done my best to ignore the various postings for the last month, it just got to be too much over the last couple of days. Please let me know if there is anything I should do besides nothing for the time being, as I assume that's the best course of action. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
blp is required for living biographies if WikiProjectBannerShell is used. There is also a tracking category to fix those cases. Also, priority in WP Biography is no longer a valid parameter. Should use a&e-priority, sports-priority, politician-priority. See template:WikiProject Biography for valid parameters. Bgwhite (talk) 18:42, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your message but your addition simply didn't work. I've had other problems with semi-automatic changes to the bio WP. Can you point me to an example that actually works rather than a set of rules - or simply give me the code here. I am hopeless at following Wikipedia rules but not too bad at writing articles! Thanks. - Ipigott (talk) 18:59, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, I think I owe you something of an apology for the tone of my messages which, on re-reading, do not seem very polite. I appreciate the time and trouble you constantly devote to improving less than perfect additions by other editors. I have now had time to look through the template page you indicated but find it difficult to follow. As far as I can see from the edit by Mandarax, when using a shell, all that is necessary is to add "blp=yes|1=" at the end of the shell line. I eventually found something similar under Template:WikiProjectBannerShell. I'll try to go back over my last 20 or 30 biographies of living people and make the change. Thanks once again. - Ipigott (talk) 07:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Template:WikiProjectBannerShell is the one you should use. "blp=yes|1=" is all you need to add. It is sort of an inside joke about the "1=". Nobody really knows why it is necessary, but people keep using it. The template actually works fine without it. Generally, only add WikiProjectBannerShell if there are 4 or more banners. WikiProject Biography always goes first.
There is a tracking category for pages that that don't have blp=yes, but needs it. It gets updated late Wednesdays and then all the articles get taken care of. So, any article you wrote before last Wednesday should already have blp=yes. No apologies are necessary. If you ever have a question, don't hesitate to ask on my talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 08:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Either the tracking category doesn't work properly or not all the articles are taken care of. I just corrected about 18 talk pages of articles I have written over the past month as they didn't have blp. Don't worry though - I will not make the mistake again. - Ipigott (talk) 18:59, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).
In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at Wikipedia:New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!
You are very welcome. I try to be very thoughtful and helpful in any way possible. With your comments on Drmies talkpage, it just had to be done. Hmmm, that Drmies is again the source for discord between us. Why are wasting our energy against each other when it should be focused on Drmies. Kill the Drmies!!!! Bgwhite (talk) 05:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have just restored the so-called unnecessary Template:Talk header that you deleted from the talk page of the Dawn Buth article. I just checked the talk page for the template and TfD, and I found absolutely no discussion about this template being "unnecessary," being phased out or otherwise deprecated. Can you explain your deletions of this template in terms of Wikipedia policy or other consensus? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
First off, change your tone. Argumentative tone and accusations are totally uncalled for. Nice to see you restore and then ask questions later. The civil ways is to ask questions first.
From Template:Talk_header, "Talk pages that attract frequent or perpetual debate, articles often subject to controversy, and/or recent-and-highly-visible topics are usually appropriate for this template."
From Wikipedia:WikiProject_Talk_pages under specific task. "Removing {{Talk header}} from all but the most controversial pages".
Thank you for your explanation. Sorry if my original comment came across as snappish. I see edit-count-obsessed editors rearrange trivial things like spacing on talk pages all the time, without actually making substantive changes, as they zip through 4 or 5 talk page edits per minute en route to their bazillion-edit goal. You apparently are not one of them. Thank you for your efforts. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:20, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't edit an article if the only thing I do is to remove the talk banner. This means you didn't see my other edit, which would probably be controversial in your eyes as you added it. I removed the WP Florida banner as she has nothing todo with the State of Florida other than living there for four years. She is clearly associated Univ. of Florida, but not the state. Some athletes are associated with a state. Tim Tebow comes to mind as he grew up in Florida and mentions Florida alot.
On the article: Do an AWB sweep, fix any glaring problems, add DEFAULTSORT, and add Persondata. If something is fishy, I investigate further and apply a Prod or whatever is warranted.
On the talk page: add listas, living, class, and work groups to bio banner. Add any other banners that I can remember. Easily over a 1/3 of new articles are for footballers, so I've got the WP Football template down pat. Remove unneeded banners... WP Sports and WP Film don't include people and I see them added alot.
When I have time to do something else, I usually work to add the Bio banner or fix a specific problem in a tracking category... plus out of habit or stupidity I also do the above things on these articles too.
I do have alot of edits. I can't say I don't peek at the edit count or compare it to others, but number of edits is not my goal. To paraphrase another editor, I'm Sisyphus, rolling a boulder up a hill until some category is cleared out, watch the boulder roll down and roll it back up to clear the category out again. Rinse Repeat. Anotherwords, I roll rocks for "fun". Bgwhite (talk) 06:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Kirshbaum proposed deletion
Instead of proposing deletion, why don't you google the name and add a reference, hmm? It would take less time, given that his name has several hundred news artiles as results. KenThomas (talk) 02:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Here's an even better thought. When you create a 13 word article, why don't you Google for a reference so other people don't have to do your work? Hmm, it would take less time than you putting a snarky message on suncreator's and my talk pages. Should I call you a lazy moocher like you called me for not even bothering to put a reference on an article you created? Should I find references for the other 22 new articles that came by today without references? Bgwhite (talk) 05:00, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Bgwhite. You have new messages at Jim1138's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Bio templates
Thanks for your reminder about the work groups.
Re: assessment, I want to point out that sometimes if the article is substantial, I don't feel comfortable adding an assessment higher than stub or start; this is why I may leave it as unassessed. Sometimes I might miss that it is a stub; a lot of stub articles aren't marked as such... My goal is to add a bio tag if it isn't there (i.e., no talk page/red link) and then have others more expert than I review it for an assessment. If this creates more work, I apologize, but I guess I'd rather err on the conservative side...Sincerely,--FeanorStar7 (talk) 19:23, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
