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== Misunderstanding edit warring == |
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Hahc, in the conversation on [[User talk: Status]], a couple of things came out: |
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#You have a fundamental misunderstanding of [[WP:EW]] and what is an exemption from edit warring. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Status&diff=500284708&oldid=500284475 This comment] illustrates that pretty well. Your statement is absolutely false. Reverting an unsourced addition is only an exception if it introduces a severe issue and "the risk of harm is such that removal is required." The genre of a pop music single is miles away from such an interpretation. Yes, reliable sources are important - very important. They're the foundation of [[WP:V]]. But the lack of them doesn't give anyone carte blanche to edit war without consequence. If you need specific policy, take a look at [[WP:NOT3RR]]. The only scenario where this is the case is "removal of libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced contentious material that violates the policy on biographies of living persons." |
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# [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Status&diff=500283068&oldid=500282958 This comment] reiterates your misinterpretation of of EW exemptions and introduces a new dimension: You don't seem to understand that the genre of a pop music single is in almost all cases not a [[WP:BLP]] issue. Now, if was being changed to [[Neo-Nazism]], then sure, that probably should be considered a BLP issue, but between [[Pop music]] and [[Contemporary R&B]] - sorry, in no way is that libelous, biased, or contentious enough for it to remotely considered a BLP issue. |
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#The problem with not understanding BLP exemptions to EW [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Status&diff=500284881&oldid=500284839 continues with this comment]. Yes, without a source, "you can name a folk song as to belong to the reggae genre" but the risk of harm is nowhere near such that removal is required and as I've tried to explain above, is not exempt from edit warring. |
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#What's more concerning is that you "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Status&diff=500285395&oldid=500285385 think you know our policies from head to toe.]" As I've pointed out above, it's clear that you don't and I'm hoping that you're taking this in the constructive manner I'm presenting it. |
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Do you understand why your comments above are incorrect? [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 20:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC) |
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Your GA nomination of A Little More Personal (Raw)
After thoroughly reviewing this article, I have decided to put it on hold at this time. For a list of the issues to be addressed, please click here. I will give you the general seven days to address these issues and/or discuss points you believe do not concern the good article criteria. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Rp0211 (talk2me) 02:16, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- All of the issues have been addressed, so I passed the article. Continue to keep up the good work! Rp0211 (talk2me) 06:24, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Veredict
Was looking at some of your GA reviews, and I noticed this and thought I'd point it out to you. You've been spelling Veredict wrong. It's Verdict. xD Statυs (talk) 02:23, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- o.0 hahaha thanks! Sometimes i get confused with spanish XD Thanks! I'll fix it. —Hahc21 02:25, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Haha, no problem! I often have the same problem with French. xD Statυs (talk) 02:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Pink Friday
Hey have you ever reviewed an album before lol? --(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 15:18, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. Why? You want me to review Pink Friday? —Hahc21 23:36, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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Minnesota Drive Expressway
I have completed some of the tasks you have asked me to do for your GAN Review on this subject. As I am blocked from directly commenting on a review page, I am forced to send you a message. Just notifying you, Oakley77 (talk) 17:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok . Since the nominator hasn't answered on the review, I think someone has to do the fixes. Thanks. I'll check on it. 21:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)—Hahc21
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GAN Question
Hello, I am taking place in the current GA drive and I just wanted to ask you a quick question. Can an article this short even qualify as a GAN? I am only asking this because I find it hard to believe articles that short can be Good Articles. Please respond as soon as you can. Thanks!--Dom497 (talk) 01:26, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Put it on hold and ask the nominator if all information available is on the article. I'll be watching the review and helping you. Regards. —Hahc21 01:33, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
GA Reviews
Hello! I just wanted to say thank you for reviewing several of my X-Files GAs. It means a lot to me and the project! Cheers!--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:27, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- Haha thanks! I got interested on the X-Files recently and i thought that a way to learn more about it was reviewing those articles. I'ts been very interesting. Cheers! —Hahc21 03:30, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Minnesota Drive GA
I'm guessing that you're approaching this from a totally detached perspective. There's not anything wrong with that, but of the few GAs which already exist and fall under WP:ALASKA, more than several of them appear to need expert review. I consider that having a somewhat expert perspective and applying that to GA candidates under the project should be a top priority, though there's so much else to do. Having said that, I fear that the article really requires more work than I will have time for. While I applaud Awardgive's enthusiasm, there are persistent issues with that user's contributions. In this case, I'm seeing a wholesale pattern of statements not matching up to cited sources. At this point, I would probably have just enough time to point out those problems in detail, but not necessarily enough time to correct all of it. Nonetheless, I'll see what I can do.RadioKAOS (talk) 20:32, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
File Mover
What do you do to get Filemover? Electriccatfish2 (talk) 11:40, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Upload about +50 non-free images which hasn't been deleted; know the NFCC policy; upload sound samples, request filename change, etc. It also depends on the admin, i think. —Hahc21 13:18, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 18:52, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
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Spectrum Air
Hi! I cam across an article about an airport that listed an airline that was redlinked. I looked it up and there's no page on it. Should I create a small stub on it? Thanks, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:42, 24 June 2012 (UTC).
- Yes, if you find enough reliable information, you can create the stub. . Which is the name of the airline? —Hahc21 22:44, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Spectrum Air. It's a charter service. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 23:54, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Mmmm i don't find enough information on Google. Better if you start it on your sandbox to avoid an AfD if the sources aren't enough. —Hahc21 23:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah you're right. Thanks for saving me from an AFD! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, now I'm finding sources. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 00:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah you're right. Thanks for saving me from an AFD! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Mmmm i don't find enough information on Google. Better if you start it on your sandbox to avoid an AfD if the sources aren't enough. —Hahc21 23:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Spectrum Air. It's a charter service. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 23:54, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
La Llamada GAN
I have fixed all issues, just a friendly reminder :) Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 23:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, but i'm consulting about the chart position, since it confuses me. —Hahc21 23:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
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GA/DYK
What's a DYK or a GA? Can anyone promote an article to GA? Who decides if it's a GA or DYK? How can I make an article a GA or a DYK? Thank you, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 14:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC).
- Hey! In order:
- A did you know? is an award or accolade which is given for newly created or expanded content on Wikipedia. It is a section appearing on Wikipedia's main page, on which such articles are named, or more specifically, an interesting sentence from the article.
- Well, that depends of which side of the game you see. As i supposed you know well what's a GA (since you sisn't asked), Anyone can nominate an article to be evaluated against a certain criteria and, if it indeed meets such criteria, the article is promoted to the Good Article status.
- For DYK: A group of editors constantly work at WP:DYK. Anyone can nominate an article for did you know? and, if it meets the criteria, then the article is featured on the main page.
For GA: Anyone who fully and clearly understands the criteria can review an article to see of it meets such criteria. If the user believes, after evaluating the article, that it indeed meets the criteria, then they promote the article. Note that if you nominate an article, you can't review it (though it may be obvious). - For GA: First, you must read the GA criteria and see if the article on which you've been working on lately meets all stated there. If it's the case, then you can nominate the article, and an uninvolved user will point you all the issues he may find for you to fix them in order to promote the article.
For DYK: This is difficult to explain. First: Only newly create articles (userspace → mainspace is valid) or articles substantially expanded within the last 5 days are eligible. Also, those articles must be properly sourced and meet some rules to be promoted as such. Also, the did you know? process is very special, since it works like an advertisement. How? Well, an interesting hook from the article is shown on the main page to promote the recently expanded or created article to the general public.
Any other question, just ask. Cheers! —Hahc21 04:20, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 11:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
My New Article
What should I work on to improve my second article, Hypopygus lepturus, a fish-related stub? Electriccatfish2 (talk) 14:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Third article: Hypopygus neblinae. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 16:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- Good! Now that you've created them, the next step is expanding them. Find all info you can and extract the most information suitable for the article(s), and add it to the article(s). Cheers! —Hahc21 02:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I really can't expand them because they are very rare species of knifefish and there is barely any information but what I could find in those 3 sources out there. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 11:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Good! Now that you've created them, the next step is expanding them. Find all info you can and extract the most information suitable for the article(s), and add it to the article(s). Cheers! —Hahc21 02:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
GA Review Request
Hi again, I was just wondering if you would be kind enough to review the Wing Coaster article that is currently a Good Article Nominee. Thanks!--Dom497 (talk) 18:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
DYK for List of works of J. J. Benítez
On 26 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of works of J. J. Benítez, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Spanish author J. J. Benítez has published more than 50 books in his career? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of works of J. J. Benítez. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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GA list
When you pass GANs, would you mind adding the article to the WP:GA list in the appropriate section? --Rschen7754 01:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I do it when I finish reviewing articles each day. Regards. —Hahc21 02:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Looking at your contributions, it seems that you've been forgetting to do so. --Rschen7754 02:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah haha Sorry. I forgot to add some. I'm doing it now. Thanks for the reminder. —Hahc21 02:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem... just be aware that people get antsy when it isn't listed right away. :) --Rschen7754 07:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah haha Sorry. I forgot to add some. I'm doing it now. Thanks for the reminder. —Hahc21 02:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Looking at your contributions, it seems that you've been forgetting to do so. --Rschen7754 02:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Random
Hey! Jw, are you on ATRL?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 03:55, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'm banned. Statυs (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- what? when? why? im not logged in since im not on my house but from my phone .... :( hahc21. 190.121.239.167 (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think he was talking about ATRL lol, what's your username on there :)?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 18:21, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- What is ATRL? —Hahc21 03:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think he was talking about ATRL lol, what's your username on there :)?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 18:21, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- what? when? why? im not logged in since im not on my house but from my phone .... :( hahc21. 190.121.239.167 (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
It's like a massive pop music forum, hilarious as hell--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 03:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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DYK for Adentro
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GAN Request (Only if you want to)
Hi again, if you wouldn't mind, could you please review the Leviathan (roller coaster) fir GA status. You don't have to do it if you don't want to and I'm fine if you decide not to.--Dom497 (talk) 19:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Dear
Dear Mr Hidalgo
You kindly reviewed my first wikipedia article Takis K. Evangelides which needed further source references. Please could you let me know if what I've put in is enough? I'm very much a beginner at this 'coding'... Unfortunately the majority of the doctor's publications were in Cyprus, where unfortunately online sources aren't prevalent (!), and so I sincerely hope what I have put will be enough. Please advise Many thx in advance Florentia Buckingham (username Cyprusfacts) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyprusfacts (talk • contribs) 21:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
A cheeseburger for you!
Diligence in GAN. Great work. Cntras (talk) 12:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC) |
A cup of coffee for you!
This coffee will help you get through the day! Good luck on your exams! Statυs (talk) 18:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC) |
WP:Latin music members
Hello, I posted a message on WP:Latin music about a future collaboration between all members to bring Latin music to FA status. Please join in the discussion :) Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 22:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
RFA/Reviewer
Hi! I have decided to postpone my RFA until January. I really think you should run soon! Also, they are granting reviewer rights again at WP: PERM if you want them. Regards! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 23:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Mmm Well, maybe I start my RFA on July 9 to see how the process works from a first person perspective. —Hahc21 00:47, 28 June 2012 (UTC)- Well, I don't know. I'm scared. I don't have the strength enough to nominate myself. —Hahc21 01:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- There is a list of about 25 admins who want to nominate people. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 12:41, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, I would rather go for a DYK, but the process seems very complicated, so I'm hoping for your help after your Wikibreak. Regards, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 00:46, 29 June 2012 (UTC).
- There is a list of about 25 admins who want to nominate people. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 12:41, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know. I'm scared. I don't have the strength enough to nominate myself. —Hahc21 01:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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LOL
Me, you and Rp0211 are racing for the top spot in the drive. xD This is hilarious! Statυs (talk) 02:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Haha, each one of us has lead the list. I'm not quite sure who will finally stay at the top. it's great XD —Hahc21 02:28, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Haha. I'm fine with just being in the top three. Statυs (talk) 02:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Latin music inclusion pt. 2
Hi Hahc21! Remember when we were talking about what defines Latin music? This article by Carlos Quintana of About.com explains what defines Latin music and I believe this is the best way to tell if an article is under the scope or not. Erick (talk) 03:14, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- I like the way it defines the genre, and on many statements he reaches the same conclusion I reached when we spoke about it. I do believe as you that it is the best way to define if an article is inside the scope or not. We should add such information to Latin music. —Hahc21 03:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. Care to do the honors? :P Erick (talk) 03:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Where should I put it? onn the lead? —Hahc21 03:43, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- In the lead is fine and maybe some parts of it too on the lead. Also check this article out. This article explains how does one define a Latin artist. This is a lot more helpful than I expected. 8) Erick (talk) 03:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, the concept got me interested. I'm tagging it as my next big project. We're on a mission to bring it to FA right? I'll be on it. I developed little on the lead, but this got me hooked. "It's interesting how Latin musicians end up living, in a way, in two worlds." —Hahc21 04:08, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- You know, the more I read about what is Latin music, the more I'm starting to think that Latin music as a genre should have it's own article. If you look at Latin American music, you see countries like Belize and Guyana but those countries aren't covered by sources that deal with Latin music, contrast that with Spain which is included. How do you think it should be done? Erick (talk) 04:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should split the article into two: Latin American music only as a genre and the information regarding the meaning, history, a summary of the main subgenres and standout artists, and Latin music by country (suggested name) on which we can discuss (or write) about each cuntry's internal development of latin music, and talk about the genres originated in such countries, as Cuba's son and Venezuela's llanera, but only as a summary. I would also recommend to, as a second option, expand the articles for each country and create a category to handle them all, alogside the already existing template. —Hahc21 04:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- OMG! That's genius! I love that idea and agree with everything you said! =D You should post that idea on the task force page for everyone to see. Erick (talk) 04:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, i'l write it there. —Hahc21 04:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! Now I'm really starting to get interested in working on it too. Hopefully we get more editors to work on it. Inviting related WikiProjects to help out with the article should also do the track. Erick (talk) 04:42, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, i'l write it there. —Hahc21 04:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- OMG! That's genius! I love that idea and agree with everything you said! =D You should post that idea on the task force page for everyone to see. Erick (talk) 04:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should split the article into two: Latin American music only as a genre and the information regarding the meaning, history, a summary of the main subgenres and standout artists, and Latin music by country (suggested name) on which we can discuss (or write) about each cuntry's internal development of latin music, and talk about the genres originated in such countries, as Cuba's son and Venezuela's llanera, but only as a summary. I would also recommend to, as a second option, expand the articles for each country and create a category to handle them all, alogside the already existing template. —Hahc21 04:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- You know, the more I read about what is Latin music, the more I'm starting to think that Latin music as a genre should have it's own article. If you look at Latin American music, you see countries like Belize and Guyana but those countries aren't covered by sources that deal with Latin music, contrast that with Spain which is included. How do you think it should be done? Erick (talk) 04:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, the concept got me interested. I'm tagging it as my next big project. We're on a mission to bring it to FA right? I'll be on it. I developed little on the lead, but this got me hooked. "It's interesting how Latin musicians end up living, in a way, in two worlds." —Hahc21 04:08, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- In the lead is fine and maybe some parts of it too on the lead. Also check this article out. This article explains how does one define a Latin artist. This is a lot more helpful than I expected. 8) Erick (talk) 03:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Where should I put it? onn the lead? —Hahc21 03:43, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. Care to do the honors? :P Erick (talk) 03:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
do quick fails count?
e.g. Osama bin Laden is listed under Lemonade51 in the drive contest. It is a quick fail. I thought those didn't count. (Not sure if I'm allowed to check others or not - I often look at them to get ideas for my own review.) MathewTownsend (talk) 13:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- No they don't count. If you see one, remove it and lave a rationale on the edit summary. —Hahc21 01:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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Regarding a old page
You were active in the page List of modern dictators if you remember, now the page is about to become a edit war portal page once again, because the obsessive edit warrior has returned, remembering that the edits done by the same person are only limited to self likeness and without making any discussion in talks. Kindly secure the page and revert back to the one which i just had [1], point is same, since 16th june 2012. Thanks Clarificationgiven (talk) 11:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'm on it. Thanks for the notice. —Hahc21 13:40, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
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Enough
Your innuendo on User talk:Status has gone far enough; either state your case that this or other admins have acted outside of policy or knock off the statements like "these actions are really suspicious" and "This is worrying me." WP:NPA does include unfounded accusations against admins. You are welcome to discuss my actions with me directly or on WP:ANI. Going around making snide comments implying wrongdoing without anything to back them up must stop. Toddst1 (talk) 23:06, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Excuse me but I don't understand why you don't provide a detailed rationale within your block logs. The same for Bwilkins. Wilkins block on Calvin have been questioned by several admins. I'm not making personal attacks, I'm just worried because of this. How Status would get blocked for that? How Calvin will be revoked editing his talk page without rationale? I'm demandng the rationale to clearly understand the actions both of you have taken. If you consider that a personal attack, then we must find a way to solve this. —Hahc21 23:11, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not responsible for Bwilkins actions. FWIW, I've started a discussion about the issues you raise with Calvin here. I encourage you to participate in it.
- Thanks for the notice. I'll take a look. —Hahc21 23:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you object to with the block of Status. Toddst1 (talk) 23:15, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not agaist or in favor of the block. I apologize for writin "another block by..", I was on a upset moment, but I fixed it. Now, i'm calmed and I can think clearly. First: I never intended to make personal attacks. Second: I just wanted you to note the details about why Status got blocked: I know that the mere fact that he were edit warring is enough, but some extra details are not bad for it. When I said suspicious, I wasn't talking about you but about this whole event that's happening. First, Calvin, then Status, the editors involved and the consequences doesn't fit. I'm suspicious about the talk page block by Bwilkins; and I think you should be suspicious too. Anyway, I just want to find an answer to all this, which is worrying me. —Hahc21 23:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I feel better about your comments.
- As far as Calvin's situation, I'm not sure what more we could or should do other than opening a discussion on that issue. As Dennis Brown pointed out, such a move seems common sense to most admins, but also understands why that isn't obvious to the average editor. Toddst1 (talk) 23:25, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, such as me. I don't find obvious that block, but maybe (as you say and I believe you) admins do. We should (as you requested on Blocking policy) add such information on the guidelines so everyone could clearly understand such blocks, and avoid this kind of situations. I'll be watching your request and supporting you to find a solution on this. Again, I apologize for the missunderstanding. Cheers! —Hahc21 23:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not agaist or in favor of the block. I apologize for writin "another block by..", I was on a upset moment, but I fixed it. Now, i'm calmed and I can think clearly. First: I never intended to make personal attacks. Second: I just wanted you to note the details about why Status got blocked: I know that the mere fact that he were edit warring is enough, but some extra details are not bad for it. When I said suspicious, I wasn't talking about you but about this whole event that's happening. First, Calvin, then Status, the editors involved and the consequences doesn't fit. I'm suspicious about the talk page block by Bwilkins; and I think you should be suspicious too. Anyway, I just want to find an answer to all this, which is worrying me. —Hahc21 23:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not responsible for Bwilkins actions. FWIW, I've started a discussion about the issues you raise with Calvin here. I encourage you to participate in it.
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Both you and I are being accused of sockpuppetry. Thought I'd let you know. Statυs (talk) 01:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Am I blocked or something? I cannot edit pages on Wikipedia! —Hahc21 02:03, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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I'm not blocked but i can't edit pages on Wikipedia. I don't know what happened. Can somebody help me? —Hahc21 02:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- The same thing happened to me. I think it was some error throughout Wikipedia. Did it tell you you can't edit, or did it just not do anything? Statυs (talk) 02:18, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have to confess. I made the edits from 190.199.81.50. I logged out without noticing and made the comments on the MfD. I just realized this very moment. Toddst1 blocked my IP and I cannot edit, but I don't find any block on my session. I apologize for the misunderstanding . Aff f***ing s**t. —Hahc21 02:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't want to log in from my phone to avoid being blocked. What a wonderful day. Well, i think i'm gonna wait to see what happens. :( —Hahc21 02:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- That is probably why it isn't working! I left Todd a message on his talk page. It's perfectly alright. Statυs (talk) 02:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm scared haha :S. i didn't realized yet until i read the SP investigation and went to the MfD article. —Hahc21 02:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I would suggest an unblock request from the IP at User talk:190.199.81.50. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 02:39, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'm scared haha :S. i didn't realized yet until i read the SP investigation and went to the MfD article. —Hahc21 02:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- That is probably why it isn't working! I left Todd a message on his talk page. It's perfectly alright. Statυs (talk) 02:33, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't want to log in from my phone to avoid being blocked. What a wonderful day. Well, i think i'm gonna wait to see what happens. :( —Hahc21 02:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have to confess. I made the edits from 190.199.81.50. I logged out without noticing and made the comments on the MfD. I just realized this very moment. Toddst1 blocked my IP and I cannot edit, but I don't find any block on my session. I apologize for the misunderstanding . Aff f***ing s**t. —Hahc21 02:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
ipsock and/or accident
I've unblocked 190.199.81.50 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) per your email confirmation and comments on the IP talk page. Please be much more careful in the future. You should be free to edit. If you have problems, email me or post something appropriate here. Toddst1 (talk) 04:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll be more carefull next time. —Hahc21 04:07, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Misunderstanding edit warring
Hahc, in the conversation on User talk: Status, a couple of things came out:
- You have a fundamental misunderstanding of WP:EW and what is an exemption from edit warring. This comment illustrates that pretty well. Your statement is absolutely false. Reverting an unsourced addition is only an exception if it introduces a severe issue and "the risk of harm is such that removal is required." The genre of a pop music single is miles away from such an interpretation. Yes, reliable sources are important - very important. They're the foundation of WP:V. But the lack of them doesn't give anyone carte blanche to edit war without consequence. If you need specific policy, take a look at WP:NOT3RR. The only scenario where this is the case is "removal of libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced contentious material that violates the policy on biographies of living persons."
- This comment reiterates your misinterpretation of of EW exemptions and introduces a new dimension: You don't seem to understand that the genre of a pop music single is in almost all cases not a WP:BLP issue. Now, if was being changed to Neo-Nazism, then sure, that probably should be considered a BLP issue, but between Pop music and Contemporary R&B - sorry, in no way is that libelous, biased, or contentious enough for it to remotely considered a BLP issue.
- The problem with not understanding BLP exemptions to EW continues with this comment. Yes, without a source, "you can name a folk song as to belong to the reggae genre" but the risk of harm is nowhere near such that removal is required and as I've tried to explain above, is not exempt from edit warring.
- What's more concerning is that you "think you know our policies from head to toe." As I've pointed out above, it's clear that you don't and I'm hoping that you're taking this in the constructive manner I'm presenting it.
Do you understand why your comments above are incorrect? Toddst1 (talk) 20:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC)