Talk:The Hideout Inn

Discography

I removed the discography section per the MOS/Music, which says Pages on artists, groups or works should have recording and discography sections as appropriate. Hideout is a venue, not an artist or work, and neither publishes nor produces music itself. Therefore, the discography section is inappropriate.

If there are a few particularly well-known songs (well known as in, known outside of chicago) about the Hideout then perhaps those recordings and information about them could be included in a "Media appearances" section, similar to what's in the Horseshoe Tavern article. It's clear, though, that not all of the recordings in the discography section are actually well-known. Including all of them creates a promotional tone. Ca2james (talk) 05:51, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ca2james:

You know nothing about the significance or history of the Hideout. It is not just a venue. That is what I am starting to establish on the page. Yet by deleting the content there is no room to improve the content. Yet again, you do this.

Beyond the fact that YET AGAIN you are stalking my edits. You continue to harass me and negatively impact the pages I work on and feel free to delete tons of constructive content which took ages to generate. I have asked you repeatedly to Assume Good Faith and out of courtesy to me given our consistently unpleasant interactions on Wikipedia NOT edit pages I am significantly improving. Yet you refuse to stop. You have a pattern here, and you acknowledge you follow my edits, but won't stop. Even when I ask you to AGF and stop. And you do so with impunity. It's unacceptable. Please STOP. I refuse to go into this again. You just need to stop.

If the goal is to stop me from editing, then that is what will happen. But I refuse to allow this to happen yet again. Driving editors off pages: It's not okay. -- BrillLyle (talk) 18:25, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

This is an article you were working on? If I'd known that I wouldn't have touched it. I'm not following you. Whenever I've knowingly come to an article you were working on, I was upfront about it. At no other time have I followed you. Please stop falsely accusing me.

On to content, and I'm not backing down from this. This is a venue where music is played, not a publisher or producer of music. A discography section is wholly inappropriate. Please can we talk about how to handle this? If you are not going to budge on your view, we can look at getting a third opinion to resolve this. Either way, we must come to some sort of resolution here. Ca2james (talk) 21:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

BrillLyle, how about we try to compromise here and find some criteria to list recordings made at the Hideout? For example, we could include only those recordings that are specifically about the Hideout or that have received significant media coverage. Or maybe some other criteria? Currently it appears there's no criteria other than everything you can find, which I do know is a lot of work; unfortunately the list appears to be an indiscriminate collection and so all that work reads as promotional. I realize that we have differing views on this type of content and I think if we work together and balance those views against each other we can make a better, more focused article. Ca2james (talk) 02:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)